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I have no idea what you think that graph is showing or how its relevant.
You don't think having a significantly better CWV score is relevant?
Pretty incredible that now Next.js, Svelte/kit and Nuxt will be under Vercel. This could be a great thing as now all of these devs are much better supported in their work, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say that this situation makes me quite nervous.
Embrace, extend, extinguish… Tale as old as… well, the 60’s… but still, it’s an old tale.
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You don't think having a significantly better CWV score is relevant?
I think plain text has the best possible CWV score yet is also deficient as an alternative for Nuxt if you're dealing with Vue-based MPAs, SSG or SPAs with SSR.
If that's the case, you're completely missing the point.
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From a cursory reading of Astro's docs their model/philosophy seems to be more like "fast by default." So their philosophy is to start with zero client-side javascript, even when one is using components from javascript-heavy frameworks like React or Vue. Interactivity is apparently something one has to explicitly opt-in to by adding a client:* directive, rather than it being the default. The migration guide states, "…
I think you're fundamentally missing the difference between these two frameworks.
- Nuxt is a Vue-based SPA (single-page application). Astro sites are multi-page apps built using .astro components, but can also support React, Preact, Vue.js, Svelte, SolidJS, AlpineJS, and raw HTML templating.
- Page Routing: Nuxt uses vue-router for SPA routing, and vue-meta for managing . In Astro, you will create separate HTML page routes and control your page directly, or in a layout component.
- content-driven: Astro was designed to showcase your content and to allow you to opt-in to interactivity only as needed. An existing Nuxt app may be built for high client-side interactivity. Astro has built-in capabilities for working with your content, such as page generation, but may require advanced Astro techniques to include items that are more challenging to replicate using .astro components, such as dashboards.
[0] https://docs.astro.build/en/guides/migrate-to-astro/from-nux...
They now, to varying degrees, directly employ core maintainers for Svelte, SvelteKit, React, Next, and now Nuxt. This is a very clear systematic overtaking of the web ecosystem. They're a private business, so these moves must be in the interest of increasing profits. It's not just out of the goodness of their hearts.
It's somewhat unfortunate that technical and business-savvy people would both, in my experience, disregard a study saying tobacco is good if it's funded by RJR, and be excited about a giant tech company employing core maintainers for the majority of new web-related software projects. Yes, they're open source projects that you can fork. But if Vercel has influence in the direction of these projects (and of course they do) it should give people much more hesitation to use them than it seems to.
At this point, using any of the technologies that Vercel has its hands in tells me that whatever uses it - a business, project, whatever - doesn't plan to function in five years.
As someone that's been saying Vercel should be avoided for years now, it's nice to finally start seeing more hesitation from others. They now, to varying degrees, directly employ core maintainers for Svelte, SvelteKit, React, Next, and now Nuxt. This is a very clear systematic overtaking of the web ecosystem. They're a private business, so these moves must be in the interest of increasing profits. It's not just out o…
As someone that's been saying Vercel should be avoided for years now, it's nice to finally start seeing more hesitation from others. They now, to varying degrees, directly employ core maintainers for Svelte, SvelteKit, React, Next, and now Nuxt. This is a very clear systematic overtaking of the web ecosystem. They're a private business, so these moves must be in the interest of increasing profits. It's not just out o…
Given that Vercel was founded 10 years ago, and they sell services for money, and then take that money and use that to pay people to work on various technologies; why would that make it less likely to be around in 5 years vs a person who isn't getting paid and is doing an open source project with no visual means of support? How do their bills get paid?
With Vercel hiring all framework creators, we will never know. Maybe that is what it will take to get hired by tech companies next: create a world-famous open source framework.
As someone that's been saying Vercel should be avoided for years now, it's nice to finally start seeing more hesitation from others. They now, to varying degrees, directly employ core maintainers for Svelte, SvelteKit, React, Next, and now Nuxt. This is a very clear systematic overtaking of the web ecosystem. They're a private business, so these moves must be in the interest of increasing profits. It's not just out o…
Given that Vercel was founded 10 years ago, and they sell services for money, and then take that money and use that to pay people to work on various technologies; why would that make it less likely to be around in 5 years vs a person who isn't getting paid and is doing an open source project with no visual means of support? How do their bills get paid?
What I mean is that the goal seems likely to be to influence how software development is done in every way possible, from deployment to client code. Vendor locking, with even more control. I'd pitch Vercel as "Heroku's growth plan but more control of everything." Maybe with a bit of EEE thrown in, but who knows.
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I think you're fundamentally missing the difference between these two frameworks.
I think that you should substantiate your claims instead of making low effort comments with zero elaboration. I've cited relevant passages from Astro's docs and I realized that it offers me the features I'm looking for, so I'm not sure what you're on about. Here are the "Key differences between Nuxt and Astro"[0] according to the docs: - Nuxt is a Vue-based SPA (single-page application). Astro sites are multi-page ap…