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Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Suggestions for old Mac Apps to look out for: - WriteNow! a very nice word processor that was originally developed for Next computers, before word took over it was the favorite. - ClarisWorks/AppleWorks - One of the better pre office integrated apps - the database was REALLY easy to use, and interfaced well with the vector graphics module, spreadsheet, and word processor... - FoxBase+/Mac - Before Microsoft bought Fo…

I’m really sad about the loss of HyperCard (and HyperCard like things.) I worked in a musical instrument store in the early 90s and my boss had a Mac SE (maybe an SE/30 like in TFA?) tricked out with an entire custom set of HyperCard stacks designed to run his business, everything from inventory to accounting to instrument rental. Every now and then we’d need something and one of us would code up a new feature. My wi…

Perhaps you would enjoy https://internet-janitor.itch.io/decker

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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What really disheartens me with modern cars is that electric cars are much simpler than than cars powered by combustion engines, which could be a huge boon to the fix-it-yourself crowd, but car manufacturers now lock customers out of their cars, so electric cars don't have the opportunity to become hobbyist friendly. There are small electric-car companies that let customers do what they want, like Edison Motors, but…

Contrary to popular belief, EVs really aren't that much easier to repair, that's just a logical expectation from people without service experience based on the idea of less moving parts, but that omits that fact that electronics die too and EVs have more of them and under more strenuous loads. Most of the faults on EVs come from dead electronics like a fried MOSFET or PCB trace, and coolant leaks inside the motor due…

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Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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I returned the MacSE30 that I bought at the Apple Store back in 1989 or 1990 when I went into grad school. Compared to the Epson that I bought at the same time it was a fantastic machine that would do almost everything that I needed to do out of the box whereas for the Epson I needed to buy other software. It helped that I already had Mac software though. I returned it because I couldn't afford it. The cost with peri…

MathCAD? TK!Solver?

I should still have my MathCAD disks somewhere. That wasn't the application though. I recognize TK!Solver too but I don't think it was that software.

I may need to scan old MacWorld magazine images to find it.

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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MathCAD? TK!Solver?

Maple?

No it wasn't Maple. I'm familiar with Maple. I found it by following ads in MacWorld magazine back in the day. It should be identifiable by checking issues between December 1984 and May 1987.

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Surprisingly, a lot of the Internet is still accessible to these old dinosaurs, through the efforts of retro enthusiasts. A search engine like FrogFind reformats results for the earliest browsers like Netscape Navigator, and kind of "text modes" the pages. There's even virtual plugfests like GlobalTalk that links together retro enthusiasts' printers over the Internet.

So basically "as long as another machine does the work", which would be like towing an old car on a trailer.

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Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Suggestions for old Mac Apps to look out for: - WriteNow! a very nice word processor that was originally developed for Next computers, before word took over it was the favorite. - ClarisWorks/AppleWorks - One of the better pre office integrated apps - the database was REALLY easy to use, and interfaced well with the vector graphics module, spreadsheet, and word processor... - FoxBase+/Mac - Before Microsoft bought Fo…

I’m really sad about the loss of HyperCard (and HyperCard like things.) I worked in a musical instrument store in the early 90s and my boss had a Mac SE (maybe an SE/30 like in TFA?) tricked out with an entire custom set of HyperCard stacks designed to run his business, everything from inventory to accounting to instrument rental. Every now and then we’d need something and one of us would code up a new feature. My wi…

SuperCard was actively developed until a few years back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperCard?wprov=sfti1

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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These old cars can be a lot of fun but even the fast ones weren't that fast when taken against a modern family car... take a 68 Mustang, an iconic car as featured in Bullitt, with a 0-60 of 5.4 seconds and compare it to a 2012 Toyota Camry doing the same in 5.8 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a151426... https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15122183/toyota-camry-... I used to drive a 62…

Here's the thing. A 68 Mustang had no almost emissions controls. A 78 Thunderbird was almost the exact same stuff, except it was choked to shit. A modern computer-controlled Camry is not only way better performing, it also orders of magnitude cleaner. IMO the ICE has achieved its final form, so now the future has to be something else (electric).

RE: "ice final form"

It's an intersting time to live, we are indeed seeing the peak of ICE, though I think there are lots of room for improvement in EGR, compression, more efficient catalytic process.

"smaller market" ICE manufacturers IE isuzu, mazda, hino etc. are sort of working towards this, as opposed to jumping on EV train.

Theoretically, it's completely reasonable for a high compression inlne 3 cylinder with aero wheels/tires to get 60-70 MPG. (With proper EGR, turbo application, CVT)

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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It's interesting how more "amateur approachable" both old cars and old computers are. Old cars can be worked on by anyone with some basic tools and know-how, and old computers could be understood and programmed the same way. MacPaint was made by one employee. I think this is partially why people want these types of objects. You can actually own them. You can understand them. You can mod them. Modern cars, games, comp…

> It's interesting how more "amateur approachable" both old cars and old computers are. Right.[1] I think of those guys at the Computer Museum who took years to repair an IBM 1401. They even had the assistance of some of the designers and retired IBM field engineers. [1] https://freefallmirror.com/ff300/fv00214.gif

Comparing this mac that can be found on ebay at any given time with a 1401 feels a bit like comparing it with getting one of the first steam trains. I am surprised they made 12000 (according to wikipedia).

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Surprisingly, a lot of the Internet is still accessible to these old dinosaurs, through the efforts of retro enthusiasts. A search engine like FrogFind reformats results for the earliest browsers like Netscape Navigator, and kind of "text modes" the pages. There's even virtual plugfests like GlobalTalk that links together retro enthusiasts' printers over the Internet.

So basically "as long as another machine does the work", which would be like towing an old car on a trailer.

Some of us had found many uses for our computers while they were offline, so I don't really get why you're implying they are useless without using the internet.

And I'm saying that as someone who only had access to a computer for about 4 years before we got internet access.

Re: Trying to find meaning in owning an old Mac

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Suggestions for old Mac Apps to look out for: - WriteNow! a very nice word processor that was originally developed for Next computers, before word took over it was the favorite. - ClarisWorks/AppleWorks - One of the better pre office integrated apps - the database was REALLY easy to use, and interfaced well with the vector graphics module, spreadsheet, and word processor... - FoxBase+/Mac - Before Microsoft bought Fo…

Dark Castle. Aldus Pagemaker. Word 5.1. After Dark.

My old Mac SE is strictly a toaster display. I turn it on to look at the toasters. After Dark is great!
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