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Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by TiredOfLife »

Dwedit wrote: post #27
jchw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has shipped with "ZIP folders" and the ability to create and extract ZIP files since the late 90s/early 2000s I believe (not sure exactly what version.) As of the latest versions of Windows 11, Windows ships with libarchive-based archive extraction, which should let you extract many archives natively (including 7-zip and RAR) via the UI as well as the CLI (via BSD TAR, which also ships with Windows these days…

ZIP Folders was developed by Dave Plummer from Microsoft (who runs the Dave's Garage YouTube channel). It was made in his spare time, then was licensed to Microsoft afterwards.

Is there any proof that any version of windows shipped his implementation? Because many things that scammer (like literally he ran a pc tech support scam company) says have little to no relation to reality

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by chronial »

ofek wrote: post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

Note that the official 7z build supports zstd compression since version 24: https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by kotaKat »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #7
doctorpangloss wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It ships with a very terrible wizard. Maybe I should say, why does the Windows unarchiving feature suck?

>It ships with a very terrible wizard. Terrible how? It just needs to zip and unzip and it does that fine for most users. What else do you expect for casual users? For power usurers there's 7zip or WinRar or other solutions. > Maybe I should say, why does the Windows unarchiving feature suck? And what stopped you from saying that? HN rules say comments should be in good faith. What you said has clearly different mean…

The Extraction Wizard is a bit clunky opening a dialog box asking where you want to extract things...

...then a brief flash as the decompress happens because it's no longer 1998 and we're not extracting 2 MB of ZIP files on a Pentium 166,

... then you get a silly "complete!" screen with a pre-filled checkbox that spawns another Windows Explorer window by default.

Eh, three clunky "wizard" screens is a bit much for a "extract here..." command.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by SomeHacker44 »

Suppafly wrote: post #36
doctorpangloss wrote: post #2

Why doesn't Windows ship with an unarchiving utility?

It does, but it's annoying because it treats things as folders, which I suppose is nice if you just want to look inside the zip, but a pain if you just want to extract something in a normal way like you'd do with any other unzipping utility.

I wish there were an easy way to get Explorer not to show Zip files as a "folder." Such a huge anti feature for me.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by diroussel »

deaddodo wrote: post #49
heavyset_go wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The defining factor isn't compression/decompression, it's just encoding. You'll see codec used in things like text encoding.

While technically true, the term has been largely co-opted by the A/V realm. It’s pretty rare to hear outside of the context.

Rare for people who don't deal with encoding and decoding maybe.

To be clear the codec implements the compression (or other encoding) algorithm. So when talking about codec's we mean the implementation. But when talking about the algorithm, we are talking about the standard of encoding the encoder or decoder implements.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by abhinavk »

chronial wrote: post #52
ofek wrote: post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

Note that the official 7z build supports zstd compression since version 24: https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05

Only decompression, not compression.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by abhinavk »

_imnothere wrote: post #45
ofek wrote: post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

Maybe it's just me but I got weird feelings seeing 7-Zip-zstd repo having more stars than it's upstream.

Github is just a mirror used to post sources of releases and track bugs. It has only 11 commits so far.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by zamadatix »

Suppafly wrote: post #37
Dwedit wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ZIP Folders was developed by Dave Plummer from Microsoft (who runs the Dave's Garage YouTube channel). It was made in his spare time, then was licensed to Microsoft afterwards.

>ZIP Folders was developed by Dave Plummer from Microsoft I'm not sure I'd tell people I did that if it were me.

Why not? It's probably the most used archiver in history. It may not be the greatest technical marvel but it was well enough liked in its day (it has been fully replaced in newer versions).

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Post by extraduder_ire »

OptionOfT wrote: post #47
gertop wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zip support has been in Windows since XP. In 11 (and maybe later 10 updates) they added 7z and rar support.

Except weirdly enough, when you open a .zip there is an "Extract All" button. When you open a .tar.gz or a .rar that button is gone. For those you need to do right mouse on the .tar.gz or .rar and click "Extract All...". I miss the days when Windows' UI was consistent.

I don't think windows UI has ever been consistent after the second release.

It's just more noticeable on 11/10 because the last four releases each have a very distinct visual style.

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