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Is there a no-AI audience?

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Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by cgriswald »

mnky9800n wrote: post #21

I have been working on this idea of a curators only social media. where instead of algorithms delivering you content, you follow people whose taste you appreciate. The original idea came from having your own "tv station". If you think about what cable tv is, it's basically a 24 hour block that the station manager could decide what to put on. Station managers with good taste (and perhaps deep pockets) could put on con…

To be honest, I’d treat your service like I treat IPTV. I would use your service for exposure to things I might enjoy and for curated lists and then go watch those things somewhere more convenient. Or I’d leave it on for my dogs.

TV schedules, the things shows had to do for those schedules, and advertisements feel like something I escaped from and I don’t see the appeal of going back at all. The only two benefits to me are: Knowing someone else is also watching the same thing (which could be done for streaming with a simple “viewers” count; and limited selection “forcing” me to watch something I wouldn’t otherwise watch. But that doesn’t really exist in this world anymore.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by oblio »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #38
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also synonymous with bad art, bad writing, climate irresponsibility, and hallucination. The problem is, people want to do the least amount of work possible and go home at 5, so they're all too happy to use the tech that their employer is forcing down their throats.

If you think AI art/writing is bad, you should have seen what the people who produced it were producing before.

I think AI will raise the floor, which is sort of good.

That will make things a LOT more unequal. When everyone is very mediocre, the few that stand out, stand our a lot more, and since everyone is used to the sameness, they'll reward difference a lot more.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by genewitch »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #5

notepad.exe? Oh wait. Emacs? :)

notepad++ that i run doesn't have any features like that. I can't even get "run" to work. But vertical selection + search and replace are top notch, and it loads large files fast, even with control characters.

Even when i was running linux and windows side by side i did all my text editing in windows, notepad++ is just that fine tuned. even BBEdit wasn't as nice.

I rarely upgrade software that "works", so i have no idea if notepad++ has gotten worse.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #38
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also synonymous with bad art, bad writing, climate irresponsibility, and hallucination. The problem is, people want to do the least amount of work possible and go home at 5, so they're all too happy to use the tech that their employer is forcing down their throats.

If you think AI art/writing is bad, you should have seen what the people who produced it were producing before.

There were bad hamburgers before McDonalds started to mass produce them, but now everyone is eating slop.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by mnky9800n »

jraph wrote: post #24
mnky9800n wrote: post #21

I have been working on this idea of a curators only social media. where instead of algorithms delivering you content, you follow people whose taste you appreciate. The original idea came from having your own "tv station". If you think about what cable tv is, it's basically a 24 hour block that the station manager could decide what to put on. Station managers with good taste (and perhaps deep pockets) could put on con…

Wouldn't just sharing bookmarks be more usable / efficient than forcing a time when they are played (and might not match others timezone or schedules - say I want to follow someone at the other side of the planet because I like their tastes)? Asked differently, what does the TV channel-like model brings to the table?

I always thought it would be fun to have a television station when I was a kid. Now I can build the technology to create a facsimile of that. I guess what might be more fun for people would be a game like those game studio simulator games. Then you could just play it when you feel like it.

but yes, i think you are correct, a curator's list maker would be a better version of this idea.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by mnky9800n »

cgriswald wrote: post #51
mnky9800n wrote: post #21

I have been working on this idea of a curators only social media. where instead of algorithms delivering you content, you follow people whose taste you appreciate. The original idea came from having your own "tv station". If you think about what cable tv is, it's basically a 24 hour block that the station manager could decide what to put on. Station managers with good taste (and perhaps deep pockets) could put on con…

To be honest, I’d treat your service like I treat IPTV. I would use your service for exposure to things I might enjoy and for curated lists and then go watch those things somewhere more convenient. Or I’d leave it on for my dogs. TV schedules, the things shows had to do for those schedules, and advertisements feel like something I escaped from and I don’t see the appeal of going back at all. The only two benefits to…

Yeah that's all true and I agree with you. I just thought it would be fun to be able to create a television station. I always liked the weird al movie UHF as a kid, and I thought maybe it would be fun to have some kind of tv station manager simulator.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by mnky9800n »

Xss3 wrote: post #45
mnky9800n wrote: post #21

I have been working on this idea of a curators only social media. where instead of algorithms delivering you content, you follow people whose taste you appreciate. The original idea came from having your own "tv station". If you think about what cable tv is, it's basically a 24 hour block that the station manager could decide what to put on. Station managers with good taste (and perhaps deep pockets) could put on con…

...i dont think adding 'manage a tv station' to my day to day is going to help me be more social or help anyone i share it with.

you are probably right. i just was building this as like a side project thing. i never thought anyone would use it. But I do think I would be interested in a kind of curator focused social media.

Re: Is there a no-AI audience?

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Post by samrus »

b112 wrote: post #32
samrus wrote: post #19

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i dont think so. theres precendent to say that you can legally jailbreak phones you buy, so this seems similar the financial aspect might not be worth your time if theres not enough of an audience. one risk is that the added price might deter your customers, who might just buy a smart tv and not use the smart part, which is what i already do.

I bought a PS2 from a guy decades ago, back when a chip hack broke Sony's copy protection. His deal was you pay him, he'd then walk across the street to FutureShop, buy the PS2, and do the hack. So he bought the chips, had them in stock, but didn't invest capital in the rest. You could easily do the chip hack yourself, but you risked bricking the beast, due to lack of experience. So the $50 was worth it, chip include…

This is true, and hacks of these sort are a cottage industry

The difference with smart TVs that might kill the value proposition is that the smart aspect doesnt actually impeed the user. You can just ignore it and hook up cable or your laptop to the tv. So would people pay to remove it on philosophical grounds. IDK

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