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Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by wiz21c »

Rucadi wrote: post #49

Until zed doesn't work on windows (publicly) unfortunately can't use it in my working computer

Non official builds for Windows:

https://github.com/deevus/zed-windows-builds/releases

The opengl one fails on my PC but the "regular one" (?) zed.exe seems to work. Didn't test much as I have discovered that today :-)

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by aequitas »

laserbeam wrote: post #32

I'm very happy to see work on the debugger. This is the main feature preventing me from switching full time to zed. Unfortunately, "here" is not accurate. Not having a watch window, a stack trace view, and no mention of data breakpoints in the announcement still keeps the "beta" tag. I know those features will arrive eventually, but what is described is definitely not sufficient for 97% of my debugging sessions. I wo…

I have to try out the debugger yet. However I share your sentiment but for the Git feature. The basics are there but it is just not complete yet to fully replace my current git workflow. Hope they keep focus on that as well.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by aequitas »

mort96 wrote: post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

I find it very easy to avoid the AI feature in every day Zed usage. Sometimes they do come in handy though. But nog often.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by mort96 »

aequitas wrote: post #53
mort96 wrote: post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

I find it very easy to avoid the AI feature in every day Zed usage. Sometimes they do come in handy though. But nog often.

I don't want an editor where I have to avoid the AI features, I want an editor without AI features

Just like I want a terminal without AI features, which is why I'm no longer using iTerm2

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by sapiogram »

senko wrote: post #33
eddythompson80 wrote: post #17

Ever since Linux support came out (2 years ago?), I go to check if they, finally, support “non-retina” “LoDPi” (a.k.a: a regular screen) yet, and sadly no :/

Using it daily on my 1920x1200 laptop screen in Linux and works just fine.

Are you using dark mode? To me, text looks absolutely awful in light mode, but okay in dark mode. Still noticeably worse than any other editors, though.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by sapiogram »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #17

Ever since Linux support came out (2 years ago?), I go to check if they, finally, support “non-retina” “LoDPi” (a.k.a: a regular screen) yet, and sadly no :/

It's so incredibly frustrating. Text rendering is the primary feature of a code editor, but no one on the Zed team seems to use a non-retina screen.

Github issue for context: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by laserbeam »

mort96 wrote: post #40

I was interested in Zed, but lost all interest when they started integrating "AI". I'm tired of "AI" everywhere. I'll just stick with Neovim until something better comes around. Which probably won't happen until after the "AI" bubble bursts.

Zed was the first editor that tempted me into using AI features. It felt solid in general and AI feels mostly like autocomplete in other editors (in terms of how much it's in your face). There's definitely a place for AI models and agents in code editors, and Zed makes me feel like it's not built around them, which is great! Zed feel like "Come to us, we are making a good fast editor that also has AI." while competition feel like "Come to us, we want AI that has an editor".

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by gkbrk »

senko wrote: post #33
eddythompson80 wrote: post #17

Ever since Linux support came out (2 years ago?), I go to check if they, finally, support “non-retina” “LoDPi” (a.k.a: a regular screen) yet, and sadly no :/

Using it daily on my 1920x1200 laptop screen in Linux and works just fine.

Zed developers themselves acknowledge the blurry font issue [1], so either you just don't notice blurry fonts or 1920x1200 on a small laptop screen is HiDPI-enough to kinda hide the blurriness.

My desktop monitor is 1920x1080. On my computer and display; Vim, Emacs and VSCode are all able to render their fonts crisply while Zed is a blurry mess.

[1]: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by calmoo »

mort96 wrote: post #54
aequitas wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it very easy to avoid the AI feature in every day Zed usage. Sometimes they do come in handy though. But nog often.

I don't want an editor where I have to avoid the AI features, I want an editor without AI features Just like I want a terminal without AI features, which is why I'm no longer using iTerm2

I didn't even notice iTerm has AI features? Where?

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

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Post by mort96 »

calmoo wrote: post #59
mort96 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want an editor where I have to avoid the AI features, I want an editor without AI features Just like I want a terminal without AI features, which is why I'm no longer using iTerm2

I didn't even notice iTerm has AI features? Where?

It seems like they've since removed it from the core app and put it in a separate plug-in: https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/issues/11470#note_19176...

Anyway, I'm happy with Ghostty since I switched away from iTerm2 and haven't paid attention to iTerm2 development much.

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