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How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

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Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#51
Seems like a massive mis-attribution error and I worry people will learn the wrong lesson here.

The OP's story is:

1. learned to program iOS (hard, completely under OP's control)

2. wrote and published iOS app (hard, under OP's control)

3. the app failed so wrote a blog post about his experience (easy although often neglected by programmers, under OP's control)

4. HN picked up the story which led to interview (total crapshot, not under OP's control)

5. a round of of interviews which led to job offer and "completely changed life" (hard, under OP's control)

I understand why claiming step 4 ("HN picking up the story") was responsible for "changed life" plays well on HN, but it's irrational.

The hard things that OP did and were under his control were: learning iOS programming, publishing iOS app, writing a blog post about it and doing well during an interview. Steps 1-3, 5 were necessary and responsible for his getting a better job.

Step 4 is the only one that wasn't under OP's control, involved pure luck and is not even necessary.

As an example, I get several interview inquiries every month but not because I post on HN (I do) or because occasionally what I wrote ended up on HN (it did) but because I have a website, github account and a portfolio of non-trivial projects.

Step 4 is not necessary because in this market a competent iOS programmer can pick and choose. The OP would be better off if he pro-actively applied for several iOS positions in Silicon Valley (of which there are plenty) and picked the best offer, instead of passively waiting and accepting the first offer.

I'm not saying that good things don't happen because of HN but in this particular case the lesson shouldn't be "write a blog post, hope it ends up on HN and then further hope someone will contact you with a job offer" but "learn a marketable skill (like iOS programming), produce a proof of your skill (write iOS application), market it a little bit (write a blog post about it) and then go on a job shopping spree (by applying for iOS jobs)".

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#52
This sounds like it could be me, a year from now. I'm literally in the middle of an interview* with a SF startup that came about because they read my blog post (via Hacker News) about failing at my own startup.

HN is undeniably awesome.

(*One interviewer was pushed forward an hour, the others are in 15 minutes...)

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#53

Seems like a massive mis-attribution error and I worry people will learn the wrong lesson here. The OP's story is: 1. learned to program iOS (hard, completely under OP's control) 2. wrote and published iOS app (hard, under OP's control) 3. the app failed so wrote a blog post about his experience (easy although often neglected by programmers, under OP's control) 4. HN picked up the story which led to interview (total…

I think the largest point the OP makes is that he wasn't intended to find a new job, but the HN community (mentality & philosophy) brought that opportunity to him. That's the key piece in #4, and the linchpin for the whole experience.

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#54
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As long as we're on the love boat: I've met at least three good friends here. Y'all have collectively pushed my career in a quite different direction than it was probably on when I started. I think I'd probably have ended up quitting ye olde day job and putting the BCC phase of my life in the "That was fun and I learned a lot, but time to get serious, what is next?" bucket. Then I would have done what everyone other…

It would be interesting then to do a Hacker News meetup, at least in Toronto, and we can reminisce on the recent HN front page articles. How great would that be? Thanks for the inspiration patio11. +1. Any one here from Toronto?

I run the monthly Seattle Meetups. If you want to chat about what I've learned in the past year running them, shoot me an email (in my profile).

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#55
This resonates with me. HN has definitely altered how I see the startup culture.

I started out in Michigan writing 3D games (by hand, no hardware acceleration!), and after my wife and I took a vacation out to northern California I just had to live there. This was during the dotcom days of 1999, and it took less than a week to get multiple job offers. So we packed up our stuff and did a cross country move. It was awesome, and exciting, and the future was wide open.

However, like the author of this piece, I wasn't really prepared with how lonely it felt. Sure, there was a lot of innovative tech happening, but sometimes at the end of the day I just wanted to have a few beers with some good friends. So, I moved away from the SF Bay area up to Portland, Oregon, where I knew several friends from college, and have been here ever since.

Lately I've got the itch to return to California. Partly for the opportunities, partly for the sunshine (it's freakin' dark and depressing during Portland winters), and partly due to HN rekindling my love of startups. Now that I'm a bit older I think I'd have a better go of it. Anyone have a cool project that needs a iOS/Python/C++ tech director?

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#56

OP: I'm curious to know whether we've ever crossed paths. It looks like we're about the same age (assuming the age you listed on some game website I just found is accurate). I was born and raised in Minneapolis, graduated from the U of MN with a Computer Science degree in 2003, and pulled up stakes to move to Seattle as soon as I could. If you were ever in debate, speech, or quiz bowl in high school between 1997 and…

You should come by the Hacker News Seattle meetup sometime. :) (http://www.meetup.com/HackerNewsSeattleMeetup/)

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#57

If not for an HN "Who's hiring" post I'd probably still have my safe job writing internal apps for an insurance company in Albuquerque; instead I'm back living in beautiful San Diego (my favorite city) and I get to see the ocean every day on my drive to my current awesome job. So add me to the list of people for whom HN changed their life. :)

Glad you changed your life and are happy with it... What was special about post that captured your attention?

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#58

Seems like a massive mis-attribution error and I worry people will learn the wrong lesson here. The OP's story is: 1. learned to program iOS (hard, completely under OP's control) 2. wrote and published iOS app (hard, under OP's control) 3. the app failed so wrote a blog post about his experience (easy although often neglected by programmers, under OP's control) 4. HN picked up the story which led to interview (total…

Without HN, the cofounder of a mobile startup doesn't know of any hobbyist iOS developers in Minnesota who might be a good addition to his team, because the hobbyist developer never sees stories about failed iOS apps as something worth writing about and even if he thought it was worth writing about without HN his story would never get in front of the right audience.

To put it another way, a startup in San Francisco doesn't need to go to the Midwest to find iOS developers. Just to find the right one.

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#59
I actually like Minnesota and really enjoy the seasons there-- the winter's not that bad-- but I'm going to chime in with a +1 for Hacker News. The quality, for an internet community of this size, is unparalleled. That doesn't mean there aren't a few useless posts here and there (shit, I've probably written a couple of those) but the overall quality remains high... and I haven't seen any evidence for a drop.

One thing I really like about the HN-sphere is the optimism. I'm naturally a cynical, dark person, as opposed to the Silicon Valley optimism and positive-sum outlook I see here. Neither is superior; both perspectives are needed. Too much optimism and you make bad choices (hence the engineers joining pre-funding startups for 1% equity) but too much pessimism and you lose your courage. It's best to have a splash of each.

It's refreshing coming to a place where people have faith in the ability for smart people to take back the world. Looking at recent improvements in compensation and autonomy for solid engineers, that might actually happen. There are a lot of bad startups too, but it's the good startups that are driving that.

Re: How Hacker News Completely Changed My Life

#60
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another good take-away, though not directly mentioned in the post, is befriend HN users both in the real world and online.

Ditto to HNers in South Carolina, particularly the Midlands. I'd love to have an HN meetup in Columbia, but would make the trek to Greenville or Charleston for one.

I'm from Greenville, there's a huge tech crowd here. I'm in an accelerator and we have a huge office space I'm sure we could use.
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