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Web designs are getting too complicated

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Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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Firefox has a reader mode. It does not work on every site, probably because on some sites it can't decide where it's the content. Examples with Firefox nightly on Android: it works on the site this thread is about, it does not work on HN.

Sorry, I missed that. It's right in the URL bar, or it was until I started typing this reply. Not pretty, though. Thanks for pointing it out. The print rendition, original or simplified, is usually great.

No worries. By the way, I noticed right now that Reader Mode is available in this page for desktop Firefox but not for Android FF.

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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> User-centric performance metrics It’s still about performance. How fast can I use it, how smooth can I use it, etc. My point is about how good can I do what I want to do on a website. For instance a shopping site can as fast and snappy as it likes, if I can’t find the right articles is useless. Amazon and ebay come to my mind who ignore even simple exact search terms just to show things I didn’t search for.

> if I can’t find the right articles is useless that's not a web design/frontend issue, unless they hide the search bar.

As a user I don’t care about frontend or backend, I care about UX for what I want to do.

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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Performance is also an irrelevant metric. Usability is.

that's like saying horsepower is irrelevant metric, lap times is you kinda need the one to get the other in the decent place, even if it is not the only one. Lack of performance WILL turn every design into mediocre or worse

Bad performance makes even good design bad but good performance doesn’t make bad design good.

Looking at performance is making the second step before the first.

Performance is the means to an end, but if you fixate on performance, the means becomes the end

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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Kind of a low effort article? Forms an opinion on web perf trends based on a design awards site, pulls some basic stats you can find on wpostats.com, and then uses irrelevant metrics such as page weight[0] instead of user centric perf metrics[1]. Yes websites have become more complicated[2]. HTTP Archive has been tracking that for a long time. But this isn’t new. And actually web performance isn’t getting worse, it’s…

Performance is also an irrelevant metric. Usability is.

Performance is a feature [0]

0: https://blog.codinghorror.com/performance-is-a-feature/

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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I really hate animations I have to sit through just to use the site. Even if it's just a second or two, that's a second or two per time I use the site and that adds up over time especially if I am forced to use the site like certain corporate SaaS's I could name.

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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turns out that this was a different rant than the one i was hoping for - that web designs are too complicated because they are far, far into diminishing returns

seems that the current generation of tooling (React) is encouraging folks to want to design a facebook, when a nice, clean, mainly static site with well designed layouts, navigation and clearly presented information is what people want to make a business decision and to get on with their day

disclosures i am the grug brained dev of https://harcstack.org which is trying to leverage HTMX to make the pain go away

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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Starting with Awwwards is a mistake. Awwwards is not representative of the web at large—it is an art gallery of interesting, atypical and normally impractical and/or bad designs. Boringly good sites will never appear on there, they’re not interesting . Awwwards is not at all representative of the web at large. The set of problems of most websites are almost entirely disjoint from the set of problems on Awwwards sites…

thats why i always choose dribbble as a go-to for a nice looking yet not "award winning" stuff

Re: Web designs are getting too complicated

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The beauty of the web is that you can design sites as if we were in the 2000s. And they work fine!

I can't wrap my head over things like React, Next.js, Vue, Tailwind (styling web pages directly in the HTML!?)… still code HTML and CSS by hand, and it's fine. Better than ever have been.

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