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A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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Someone would probably buy them on eBay for a good price.

There are definitely people that collect older media for use in the retro setups. I constantly buy New Old Stock when I find Floppies, Mini Disc, Cassettes, Zip Disks, hell just about anything. We're a weird bunch of collectors but we're out there.

Somebody here is going to be very rich one day, just safeguard them against elements

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

#52

Back in the day, there was a Yamaha burner with a feature called "DiscT@2". It could burn images and text onto the unused area of a CD-ROM. I just had to get it and did so, and I had a bit of fun with it.

I still have that particular Yamaha burner (CRW-F1). Besides DiscT@2, which I used to burn all types of useful information, it had really good burn quality. Given I used a good brand, none of the discs had rotted or lost data even after a decade.

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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I fondly remember LightScribe, that was a pretty awesome technology.

I was going to say, I still have a 5 pack of Lightscribe DVDs unopened in a box specifically to save something "special" but obviously nothing has ever been special enough to warrant using them. And now that they aren't made anymore it would feel downright sacrilegious to use them, not to mention 4.7GB of capacity is just not enough for anything nowadays really.

Yeah! I have had that exact same feeling! The one I remember burning the most was a collection of photos and movies of my family. I printed across the disc a photo of everyone. It was just so cool, even in black and white, but I always held back because they were a little expensive, and I wanted to save them for something really special! Had they been the same price as other discs.. I think I would have used them more.

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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I was going to say, I still have a 5 pack of Lightscribe DVDs unopened in a box specifically to save something "special" but obviously nothing has ever been special enough to warrant using them. And now that they aren't made anymore it would feel downright sacrilegious to use them, not to mention 4.7GB of capacity is just not enough for anything nowadays really.

4.7GB is quite enough for a standalone Linux DVD (for devices that still have DVD drives). Plus some cool art. Might be a good idea to preserve a known-working distro for some old PC, especially for discontinued or less-used architectures. Just saw a discussion the other day about finding 32-bit Debian for an old laptop.

> preserve

I don't know how it ended up with later generations, but all the CD-R and DVD-R discs that I thought I had archived everything on became entirely unreadable after something around 7 to 8 years.

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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Same. I had one of these in ‘98/‘99. The disc didn’t even go into a standard tray—-you had to use a caddy that completely enveloped the disc.

any idea what the caddy did? some sort of feedback for rotation angle maybe?

Discs always used to be in cases/sleeves. The caddies were a natural extension of that same metaphor.

5-1/2: "floppy" plastic outer shell with a rectangle cutout across the disc, and a circle cutout so the disc could be squeezed/grabbed and then rotated. Stored in a paper sleeve to protect from scratching, all those were usually in a plastic case that held 10-100.

3-1/2: hard outer shell, metal exposed ring/hook in the middle, spring-closing door to protect from scratching. These had gone from ~360kb to 1.44mb (4x increase) and space hadn't bloated out yet. They were durable enough not to bend, and the protective door meant it was semi-dust/sand-proof.

Then along came CD'd... jewel cases, but you're carefully handling the actual media (ie: that magnetic disc/vinyl "record" from within the 5-1/2 floppy).

Caddies gave you the feel and protection of the 3-1/2 hard case disks, and were actually pretty useful if you had like a 6-CD encyclopedia set (eg: Encarta 2003 - https://news.microsoft.com/source/2002/06/27/microsoft-encar...).

You'd generally install a 50-100MB program and have to swap CD's depending on what program you had open (or what it was asking for). Even! There were IIRC 3-disc changer drives (like car audio) where you could load up a cartridge and switch (slowly) between discs 1, 2, and 3.

In some cases they were really useful! We had one with like a 20-slot Rolodex style storage box and you could load up the caddies (and type labels!) and keep the optical media safe from grubby kid's hands.

Zork, Myst, 7th Guest, Encarta, Clip Art bundles, font bundles... at a time when Nintendo was the contemporaneous technology, switching "cartridges" to whatever you were working on was an incredibly efficient use of space and money compared to how expensive hard drives were!

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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Can it still hold data?

I assume no https://github.com/arduinocelentano/cdimage/issues/16

But a multisession disc with this technique should be possible, using a data track and then the rest as "picture audio."

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

#58

Cool idea. Like a more accessible version of lightscribe. (if you use a dual-sided disc) I assume this isn't possible with a DVD/bluray due to the much much smaller pits.

> I assume this isn't possible with a DVD/bluray due to the much much smaller pits.

Or, you know, higher resolution images.

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume no https://github.com/arduinocelentano/cdimage/issues/16

But a multisession disc with this technique should be possible, using a data track and then the rest as "picture audio."

Technically CDA allowed tracks in the “negative time”. So you could probably burn everything there and then have a short track on the “normal” time for an actual song. Cool CD single?

Re: A tool for burning visible pictures on a compact disc surface (2022)

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I gather it's a reference to the pop singer Adriano Celentano?

Ol rait!

Parent is referring to an entertaining music video where the Italian singer made a song of nonsense words that sounds like English to non-English speakers:

Starts at 1:40

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v5VpczwrSCc

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