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Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#51

I used it and the timer stopped when I was in the Hold command. Am I allowed to exhale? I think the timer should be a multiple of the time to complete one full cycle, ending on an exhale.

> Am I allowed to exhale?

It stopped for me too. I hope someone answers this soon.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#52
post #15

There are lots of different ways to do this. The important thing for anyone wanting to get started is just to get started and not get hung up on which one you're doing. Box breathing, Wim Hof method, etc, are all great and any breathwork is better than none. For an intro to the topic, James Nestor's Breath is excellent.

is Nestor's book really excellent? I didn't make it more than halfway through because nowhere could i find any references for all the outlandish claims that are made. A lot of them are implausible anyway, and so far as I know the actual science does not support all these theories put forth in the book. If a thing is made out to be the cure to everything, it's likely the cure to nothing.

would be happy to have some good references.

this isnt to say that breathing exercises are not beneficial, but this book left me scratching my head.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#53
post #34

If you want breathing exercises that go way into the specialized deep end, you can always pick up the sport of 3p rifle. You'll get incidentally very good at calming via breath, because of the tight feedback loop of holes-must-go-closer-to-the-center See e.g. Reinkenmeier describing breath work in standing: https://youtu.be/dHsG3GU9_PY?si=qlaLrSfKLCeiCgl4 prone: https://youtu.be/5odRbYSbDIk?si=joBeFyyUrwBvQ7bk Just g…

As a smallbore prone beginner I hadn't made this connection yet but it makes a lot of sense. Time for some deeper investigation...

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#54
I wonder how much is the specific technique vs. the fact that something like 4-7-8 requires you to pay attention to and focus on your breathing? Have their been any studies where participants were asked to do tasks while also box breathing etc?

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#55
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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also do not find breathwork relaxing, and it's not always meant to be. The Wim Hof method in particular will definitely amp you up and cause some strange feelings. But if you are really having a bad time with it and want to continue, just find some interval that works for you. There is no one right answer for how to do this. On a personal note, I realized through breathwork that I was taking deep breaths incorrectl…

Wim hof may not be meant to be relaxing, but box (square) breathing is definitely supposed to be. It's recommended in many places for anxiety by reputable organisations. Of course, different people are different. If it actually makes anxiety worse then don't do it, or seek advice. It's difficult to know why the GP has this reaction.

They also teach box breathing in the US Army.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#56
post #52
post #15

There are lots of different ways to do this. The important thing for anyone wanting to get started is just to get started and not get hung up on which one you're doing. Box breathing, Wim Hof method, etc, are all great and any breathwork is better than none. For an intro to the topic, James Nestor's Breath is excellent.

is Nestor's book really excellent? I didn't make it more than halfway through because nowhere could i find any references for all the outlandish claims that are made. A lot of them are implausible anyway, and so far as I know the actual science does not support all these theories put forth in the book. If a thing is made out to be the cure to everything, it's likely the cure to nothing. would be happy to have some go…

Basically the last third of the book is a bibliography. It's filled with tons of scientific references.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#58
For anyone wanting something portable, I stumbled across this iOS app a while back:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/box-breathing-meditation/id673...

Nothing fancy but it works. Been using the watch app during stressful meetings (nobody notices you're doing breathing exercises). Has all the standard box patterns plus some custom options.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#60

I wonder how much is the specific technique vs. the fact that something like 4-7-8 requires you to pay attention to and focus on your breathing? Have their been any studies where participants were asked to do tasks while also box breathing etc?

I wonder the same thing too. Especially since there are all kinds of different techniques that people recommend. And because the ideal length of time for the different phases must surely vary from person to person, since it's a physiological thing and everyone's body is different. It really seems to me (disclaimer: I'm a layperson) like the important thing is just focusing on measured breathing, not the exact one-size-fits-all measure.
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