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Long live American Science and Surplus

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Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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Anyone know a way to find stores in other areas with this kind of spirit? Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale used to feel a bit like this to me.

The Reuseum in Garden City, ID https://www.reuseum.com/

Bookmarking this, I can't believe I didn't know about this place when I lived there (although that was long enough ago they might not have been open).

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

#53

Anyone know a way to find stores in other areas with this kind of spirit? Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale used to feel a bit like this to me.

Ax-Man Surplus in MN. https://www.ax-man.com/

I visited that place a couple of months ago, it was fantastic.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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Completely flabbergasted to see one of my favorite stores of all time at the top of HN. This place is an absolute gem and I have countless childhood memories of visiting the Milwaukee Av location. Heartbroken to see they’re in financial distress. If there’s any store worth saving it’s this one.

I ordered motors and pumps from that catalog as a kid. Can you imagine I used to love going through the stuff they had on a paper catalog!

In person you could also see their supplies of sodium and potassium in sealed glass containers. I always wanted to get my hands on those.

Like you said, so many motors and switches; likely a big part of the reason I do what I do for a living today.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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Scored a lot of Lindsay's books when you still could (lot of build-your-own regenerative receivers and similar, reprints of "The Boy Mechanic", "5 Acres and Independence", etc.). I would suspect (hope) many have been "archived" at "the org". (EDIT: I see for example "The Impoverished Radio Experimenter Vol. 4": https://archive.org/details/impoverishedradi0000lind/mode/2u... )

This is a great recommendation, thanks! I've found a lot of interesting old radio hobbyist magazines on the Archive, whose copyright has expired. While it's great to see how people could get stuff done with the very limited electrical resources available in the 01910s and 01920s, many of the designs depend on materials that are now hard to find, while materials that are now easy to find (like PN2222s) didn't exist.

We have a big and ongoing focus on amateur radio right now thanks to a grant from ARDC and really hard work by our awesome Program Manager Kay Savetz. Worth checking out: https://blog.archive.org/2022/11/16/digital-library-of-amate... https://archive.org/details/dlarc

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like these places too but I can see why they are dying. The number of SKUs people want has exploded and the cost competition from buying online is unreal. Recently I needed a motor driver in a hurry (a4988 or equivalent) and decided to visit my local electronics shop. They wanted $9 for it (plus tax), which I was willing to pay, but were out of stock. So I went home and found a 5 pack of the exact same part for abo…

This is a benefit of having ultra dense industry specific zones like the Shenzhen SEZ. Physical vendors get the volume to warrant operating and reasonable pricing, buyers get components on short notice. Suburbanization set up the US for failure here, and the governments haven't bothered intentionally creating any equivalent of Shenzhen. Santa Clara county used to be the spot, and I'd regularly pick up quickturn PCBs…

The public's (lack of) tolerance of pollution also impacted things. It's not like PCB manufacturing is clean.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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So many surplus stores are gone. Silicon Valley had HSC, where Steve Jobs bought Apple's first oscilloscope. They closed in 2018. Weird Stuff Warehouse closed in 2018. Edmund Scientific in New Jersey closed in 2001. Electronic Surplus [2] is "temporarily closed for maintenance. Fair Radio Sales in Lima, OH closed in 2023.[1]

It's cheaper to buy the new stuff from Shenzhen than the old stuff.

[1] https://fairradio.com/

[2] https://www.electronicsurplus.com/

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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Completely flabbergasted to see one of my favorite stores of all time at the top of HN. This place is an absolute gem and I have countless childhood memories of visiting the Milwaukee Av location. Heartbroken to see they’re in financial distress. If there’s any store worth saving it’s this one.

I actually specifically made a trip to Milwaukee 1/3 for the Harley museum and 2/3 for ASS (that acronym was definitely deliberate). I've enjoyed my visits to ax-man surplus [0] in Minneapolis enough that when I heard about a similar store it was enough to justify a 500mi weekend bike trip. The stores are very similar, but anyone lucky to live near their store knows that the inventory changes enough that each visit is a unique experience and you won't see the same things twice.

saveitforparts on YouTube did an excellent tour/example video of ax-man [1] which gives a good idea of the type of store ASS is and the vibe. Even if you aren't local to the upper Midwest, I'd highly recommend donating to keep this store alive. It very much fits with the old-school hacker ethos, and keeping spaces like this alive helps preserve that culture and exposes younger people to the idea of DIY/punk/hacker and the ability to repurpose old/interesting stuff.

Side note, I'm surprised that these types of scientific surplus stores have lasted longer in the upper Midwest than places like silicon valley or near bell labs in NJ. They aren't open for retail anymore and didn't have the same sense of humor, but Surplus Sales of Nebraska [2] is also an excellent example from this area of the country. I hadn't ordered since last year, they had held on to a delightful web 1.0 site up until sometime in the last year and are a legit supplier for really oddball stuff.

[0] https://www.ax-man.com/pages/the-nature-of-surplus

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-uJPIhAUu4

[2] https://www.surplussales.com/

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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It's a pity they don't ship to other countries than the US. I looked through their website and saw some fun stuff, but no international shipping.

Send them an email asking for a quote. For a small business like this, I'd expect they can probably ship it to you but the complexities of quoting shipping internationally means they don't have it on the site. Yes, shipping APIs are readily available, but implementing them costs more than the shoestring budget they likely have for the site and would also require integration with their inventory software. I'd be willing to gamble that they are likely using a homegrown WMS that is a combination of excel sheets and several layers of scripts from former and current employees who can write code but aren't professional developers.

I've consulted for similar size businesses, and shipping integration was always the reason to not support international shipments. Send them an email, you'll almost certainly hear back from a real person and if you let them know what you want to order they can probably make it happen.

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