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Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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I meant for what it does. Is there anything even remotely comparable to twitter (outside of the PRC)?

Bluesky, Threads, mastodon, even reddit I guess even though it's more atomized into subreddits.

Twitter has like 3 times the users of threads and bluesky has a tenth of threads.

It's a geometric progression (power law) and it almost always devolves into that.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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sounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea

Unfortunately there aren't that many competing services.

AFAIK BunnyCDN is the only service that comes close but their cloud offerings are kinda new and they charge egress.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Yeah. I think this is the elephant in the room. I keep stumbling upon "We need to verify you are a human" by Cloudflare in many sites around the web. Crazy.

Sadly including on my site that kept getting overwhelmed by bots this year. I didn’t know what else to do.

Have you tried anubis?

https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Why does CloudFlare have these problems and other CDNs like CloudFront and Akamai don’t?

CloudFlare is free/cheap, has (AFAIK) no KYC policy, and is generally unresponsive to abuse reports unless the courts get involved, so it's the default choice for nearly all piracy sites, phishing sites, DDoS providers, etc. The few which do get kicked out of CF generally have to resort to dubious Russian CDNs because none of the other mainstream CDNs will have them.

> dubious Russian CDNs

Are there multiple? I thought DDoS-Guard [1] had a near-monopoly on CDN services for international piracy.

[1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/01/hamas-may-be-threat-to-8...

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Also Serie A, in Italy we had people losing everything this winter due to floods, and clubs were still trying to not postpone matches, it's so crap that there are so many people following football

In Brazil it is not uncommon for fans to organize protests, sometimes violent, when a club starts performing poorly due to perceived slack on the players. At the same time, seemingly more pressing political issues often go unnoticed. It's beyond me how some people get more riled up by the sport, not being a sports person myself.

It's designed for this purpose. Rome was organizing those games to thrill the romans, it worked splendid. When political concerns gets on the rise, you pump the show.

It works better than your typical propaganda as players become heroes, managers and clubs make great money. Distributors get their cut. The machine is well oiled with solid monetary incentives.

Football (and other sports watching): cheap but deep rooted emotions, press here to get your dose.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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I was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on t…

The EU should be sanctioning Spain the same way we're sanctioning Hungary for this sort of authoritarian behaviour. What's next, they're banning Google cause pirates use it to search for streams?

I don't know how this doesn't count as a net neutrality violation.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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I was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on t…

Cloudflare becoming Too Big To Block. Sounds like it should become a utility.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Of course it could claim lives. Hopefully Prince has considered people have also likely died as a result of Cloudflare's repeating captcha which holds the next page in front of you like a carrot on a stick, never letting you know that you will be clicking that box forever. I'm sure while someone's in the process of keeling over is the perfect time to arbitrarily scrutinize their connecting details. You need to contac…

What’s the alternative solution? We also don’t want to have critical services DDoS’d or spammed.
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