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>This guy needs to drop the middle school tough-guy tone and post numbers. Pretty sure comma is profitable? Not particularly, but for a hardware startup selling multiple iterations and not getting wrecked is a sound start

Wasn’t he pushed out?

Definitely not. Pretty sure he has full control...don't think even took outside capital but not 100% certain on that one

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic.

He doesth come acrosth as tothic.

Yucky!

Georgie hotsth u r yucky and tocthic!

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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What a bunch of absolutely limp wrist milquetoasts hackernews is / has become.

So much pearl clutching over the “tone”. Oh dear.

I thought this polemic was amusing and am sure comes from a place of genuine concern.

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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> edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic. Personally, I prefer direct language if it gets to the root of the problem quicker. It's more pragmatic. You just have to pick your audience, because some people get offended by it. But the most productive discussions I've had have be…

There's a line between rude/toxic and direct/pragmatic. The whole world at large would be much better off if we made that distinction. Also, that both tones can be found in the same piece of prose; we don't have to label a whole piece as one or the other. > If you want a dataflow graph compiler, build a dataflow graph compiler. > This is not 6 layers of abstraction, it's 3 (and only 2 you have to build). This is dire…

True, but I just fear that people tend to throw the baby out with the bath water, opting for safe rather than effective communication.

Only like 4 lines of what geohot said are problematic. Would it be better if they weren't there? Yes. But, it's also not as egregious as you and that throwaway account make it out to be. It's more just annoying.

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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> His AMD rants were a valuable warning about the quality of their hardware. The rants weren’t breaking news to anyone who was familiar with PyTorch or adjacent communities. He seized upon a weak moment for AMD to try to launch his own company. Unfortunately he launched his effort with an attack on the company he was effectively trying to partner with, making the entire venture DOA. It’s too bad, too, because it woul…

> The rants weren’t breaking news to anyone who was familiar with PyTorch or adjacent communities. How many people in the PyTorch and adjacent communities are trying to port the stack to AMD cards? I'd guess less than 100. That is a pretty small community. They don't do that much in the way of publicity (and, case in point, George does and he attracts a certain number of haters). George is probably the first public r…

A lot of the people have been specifically not working on it because they felt that it was not a good use of their time.

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic.

> you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way Who's the people of a certain caliber? Are there people who can talk like this and others that are better people which shouldn't? What weird thing to say.

People hold geohot in high esteem (caliber). I'm saying that doesn't excuse the behavior. I think we're in agreement.

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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Wasn’t he pushed out?

Definitely not. Pretty sure he has full control...don't think even took outside capital but not 100% certain on that one

As near as I can tell from a brief search, geohot left comma in 2022

Re: Advice to Tenstorrent

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Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic.

Not trying to flame or anything but what is your age? As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming the language he is using is fairly mild. I think we just have very different social norms.

> As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming

That’s an extremely low bar. Nobody would bat an eye about a random person speaking like this on a gaming Discord or a message board.

Posting public messages as a public figure with an audience to a company is not the same as Call of Duty voice chat.

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