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6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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They should change the name to Bitstant. It's two syllables and rolls off the tongue more smoothly.

The sound of BitStant reminds me of "stunt" like a trick, or stunted like stunted growth. Either way not words i'd like associated with my brand were I a credit card company.

Also, BitInstant, for its length, is more memorable and makes sense.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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These are exactly the kind of thoughts I like to see people having about Bitcoin.

But isn't international credit/debit cards (even such with "limited charge") a solved problem? Except when under 18, all my credit cards were always international.

Depends on the charges. If you're ok with around 1£ added to every transaction while you're abroad, then yes, it's a solved problem. But if you're travelling a lot and don't want to exchange the paper money and always be stuck with some change you'll probably never use again... it could be better.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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But isn't international credit/debit cards (even such with "limited charge") a solved problem? Except when under 18, all my credit cards were always international.

Depends on the charges. If you're ok with around 1£ added to every transaction while you're abroad, then yes, it's a solved problem. But if you're travelling a lot and don't want to exchange the paper money and always be stuck with some change you'll probably never use again... it could be better.

If you're ok with around 1£ added to every transaction while you're abroad, then yes, it's a solved problem.

How about £0? That's a solved problem too. In the parts of the world with a working, modernized banking system and proper competition.

I could chose to be part of those who got charged £1. I chose not to, and so did so many others, that where I live, finding a bank which charges you money at all to withdraw anywhere in the world is the exception, not the rule.

There may be merits to bitcoin (although I do admit I have very little knowledge, insight or understanding of the system), but you don't need it to have working banking institutions and free trade. That I do know.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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>6-8 Weeks After Stack Overflow, we should really start referring to this as an "Atwood period".

Can you explain?:)

When asked how long version 1.0 of Stack Overflow would take to produce, Jeff Atwood famously replied "six to eight weeks" without any sort of serious planning or consideration. It took quite a bit longer. Listeners of the Stack Exchange podcast got to hear Joel Spolsky make fun of Jeff for this many times.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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Consumer-grade mining is a temporary phenomena. In a few months, the block reward will be dropping in half, and most people with GPUs will no longer be able to operate them profitably for mining. This is because FPGA mining hardware has been shipping in volume. In addition, if ASIC hardware starts shipping, GPU is completely out of the game and FPGAs will be hard pressed to stay powered on. GPU mining had a good run…

So, the only way to get some bitcoins for a single person would be hacking sites like bitcoinica or users? Also, is there a live statistic, which shows how much bitcoins exists right now?

Hacking?

You can buy them, you know. That's the whole point of Bitcoin exchanges.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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So, the only way to get some bitcoins for a single person would be hacking sites like bitcoinica or users? Also, is there a live statistic, which shows how much bitcoins exists right now?

Hacking? You can buy them, you know. That's the whole point of Bitcoin exchanges.

Maybe he likes to pay the iron price.

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hmm so who own the best hardware win the game? what if Google decided to join!?

A company like Google could probably hijack the bitcoin network. However, no matter how much hardware you throw at it, you will never make more than 300 BTC per hour. So it would be unlikely to be economically feasible to throw a giant server farm behind calculating bitcoins. Perhaps it would become a sensible concern if a country would adopt BTC as their currency and another country would decide to attack that count…

I think I might be inorrect: if somebody hijacks the bitcoin network, perhaps they could make more money by changing transactions of the past. Not really sure, though. Anyway - that would only destroy the network, not really make them richer.

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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Depends on the charges. If you're ok with around 1£ added to every transaction while you're abroad, then yes, it's a solved problem. But if you're travelling a lot and don't want to exchange the paper money and always be stuck with some change you'll probably never use again... it could be better.

If you're ok with around 1£ added to every transaction while you're abroad, then yes, it's a solved problem. How about £0? That's a solved problem too. In the parts of the world with a working, modernized banking system and proper competition. I could chose to be part of those who got charged £1. I chose not to, and so did so many others, that where I live, finding a bank which charges you money at all to withdraw an…

Exactly. I just went over my credit cards' reports and it specifically says next to the international deals "fees: 0.0"[0]. Both reports checked are for the business/corporate versions[1] of two famous credit card entities (Visa, Amex, Mastercard, Diners).

Is it the same for my mother's credit card she got at the supermarker for club discounts? Probably not, but she uses another one outside the supermarket.

[0] There is probably some hidden fee in the conversion rate, but it seems to me a fair conversion rate, not unlike I would get at the post office.

[1] Personal cards

Re: 6-8 Weeks Until Bitcoin Debit/Credit Card, says BitInstant

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It's interesting how Bitcoin is now becoming exactly what Bitcoin was always against: a centralized bank. A bad and unreliable one at that. It kind of shows you the evolution of our banking systems and why we need one.

What? How can a currency become a bank? You have a very strange definition of the word bank. I don't even know what you're trying to say. Downvoting, really? That's like me saying "USD is becoming a bank! And that's awful!".

I think he's referring to the centralization rising up around the currency, not necessarily the currency itself.
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