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Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by frfl »

JamesSwift wrote: post #41
frfl wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment seems out of date. There's no $200-300 iPhone anymore. iPhone 16e is the cheapest model I think? That's $600usd? But there are in fact $200-300 Moto phones still and new ones every year, with decent specs for the price and fairly close to stock Android OS. No, they dont have 6 or 7 year of OS upgrades, but that was never a realistic option in the budget Android phone market anyway. It would be unfair and…

These show as $270 new https://swappa.com/listings/apple-iphone-se-3rd-gen-2022?car...

The catch being that's a phone from 2022. Sure, if that's acceptable. I was just referring to current models rather than models from multiple years ago

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by kridsdale3 »

saubeidl wrote: post #30
wiseowise wrote: post #13

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They've been copying iOS for years, time to bring some of that Windows "consistency" into the mix.

To be fair, as of late, iOS has been copying Android more than the other way around - think notifications and widgets.

Those were both more than 10 years ago.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

In human–computer interaction, baby duck syndrome denotes the tendency for computer users to "imprint" on the first system they learn, then judge other systems by their similarity to that first system. The result is that "users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems". The issue may present itself relatively early in a computer user's experience, and it has been observed to impede education of students in new software systems or user interfaces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_(psychology)#Baby...

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by AndrewDucker »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #42
karlgkk wrote: post #17

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> I have no idea which phone or timeframe when I could see the rollout of Material 3 Expressive. Not a problem with a pixel > More than 10 years later, shopping for an Android phone with the latest OS is a nightmare Not a problem with a pixel > They will need to improve on their ecosystem commitments Not a problem with a pixel

A headphone jack is unfortunately a problem with a pixel. Otherwise I would still own one. I had a Pixel 1, then a pixel 3a, then Google decided to get rid of a basic feature that every phone should have. So I stopped buying them.

Same here. Would still have a Pixel, but I'm not giving up my choice of headphones.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #42
karlgkk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have no idea which phone or timeframe when I could see the rollout of Material 3 Expressive. Not a problem with a pixel > More than 10 years later, shopping for an Android phone with the latest OS is a nightmare Not a problem with a pixel > They will need to improve on their ecosystem commitments Not a problem with a pixel

A headphone jack is unfortunately a problem with a pixel. Otherwise I would still own one. I had a Pixel 1, then a pixel 3a, then Google decided to get rid of a basic feature that every phone should have. So I stopped buying them.

Also no microSD slot. Decent internal storage, but the ability to expand, swap, and pull from a dead phone shouldn't be underestimated.

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by malfist »

jcalx wrote: post #26

Another "big refresh". I've already disabled animations because of the faintly ridiculous system-wide overscroll effect [0] which makes every menu and webpage bounce like the viewport is made of gelatin, so I'm a little bemused to see them doubling down on "natural, springy animations". I know this is "old man yelling at cloud" of me, but I don't care for my notifications to "subtly respond" to adjacent ones being dr…

That's one of the first things I do with a new phone. Want to make a phone feel sluggish? Wait on all the stupid transition animations designers made

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #42
karlgkk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have no idea which phone or timeframe when I could see the rollout of Material 3 Expressive. Not a problem with a pixel > More than 10 years later, shopping for an Android phone with the latest OS is a nightmare Not a problem with a pixel > They will need to improve on their ecosystem commitments Not a problem with a pixel

A headphone jack is unfortunately a problem with a pixel. Otherwise I would still own one. I had a Pixel 1, then a pixel 3a, then Google decided to get rid of a basic feature that every phone should have. So I stopped buying them.

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Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by FreakyT »

malfist wrote: post #50
Ajedi32 wrote: post #16

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If you care about always having the latest software with the latest Google features just get a Pixel. 7 years of OS and security updates: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en Google doesn't control what other vendors do; that's the beauty of open source. (You can argue how open Android really is these days but it's still more open than iOS.)

What happens when one of those updates bricks your battery so it only lasts an hour or so off charger?

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, considering that this actually happened:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/01/google-pixel-4as-rui...

Re: Android and Wear OS are getting a redesign

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Post by aucisson_masque »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #16
ndneighbor wrote: post #9

The number one issue I have with Android is that while this looks cool, because of the fragmentation of the OS delivery between vendors- I have no idea which phone or timeframe when I could see the rollout of Material 3 Expressive. More than 10 years later, shopping for an Android phone with the latest OS is a nightmare. Android leadership keeps on getting shuffled around, Google changes priorities every 6 months it…

If you care about always having the latest software with the latest Google features just get a Pixel. 7 years of OS and security updates: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en Google doesn't control what other vendors do; that's the beauty of open source. (You can argue how open Android really is these days but it's still more open than iOS.)

Pixel have other issue, quality control and run on Samsung exynos hardware with bad performance and connectivity.

I'd argue that Android is technically more open than iOS but in practice it isn't. Google have dark pattern and elaborated ways to get Android user to stay in the 'walled Google play service garden'.

Like when you install a third party store and Google play protect warns you it may be insecure.

Or having to press install for every app installed outside of the store, over and over.

The fact you can't get push notification without enabling the Google play services, which is the core framework of the Google data collection happening on every Android.

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