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Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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I whole-heartedly believe in free markets, but at the same time, fuck everything about the circus clown show that is modern techno-capitalism.

Maybe you should reconsider where your heart lies, and ask if "free markets" that have worked so well for modern society have always been heavily regulated in order ensure they serve citizens beyond capital owners.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Umm, I think any respectable human would simply deny writing a haiku. So, a bot can simply mimick that behaviour.

Can, but won't!

Because system prompts cannot be changed?

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Glen Okun of NYU business school has written about BNPL loan portfolio weakness. The AI marketing is just an attempt to reframe the value narrative of the company before IPO. They would rather be seen as an AI company than an unsecured lender of last resort. The narrative on Klarna’s core business is not good in any case, either an extractive lender benefiting from people buying what they may not afford and charging…

I can't believe it takes b-school professors to figure out that people financing their DoorDash might not be the best people to lend money to.

This is the primary positioning tactic used across the startup industry . Uber isn't a taxi app, it's actually the "future front end for millions to access autonomous transport". Doordash isn't a delivery app, it's an "on-demand logistics" platform.

Similarly, Klarna isn't a shady payday loan company, it's an "AI-first consumer finance play".

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

#54

I whole-heartedly believe in free markets, but at the same time, fuck everything about the circus clown show that is modern techno-capitalism.

Go hack and read Marx and Engels, and also study Ned Ludd and Luddism/luddites. There is NOTHING special about current technology in application of capitalism. Its always been exploitive, and grinds people into used and nearly dead objects. The answer isn't reforming capitalism, either. FDR tried, and we're back to the Black Friday set of events... But in this case, we're even worse off with alienation of basically e…

So .. your answer is to try socialism again?

Were there any major updates to the agenda, since it was tried the last time?

If not, why expect a different outcome next time?

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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I went through klarna’s interview process some time ago.

I had to go through both reasonable and weird steps, including IQ tests for some reason. I passed them all, and then I was ghosted, and upon reaching out I was met with months of excuses asking me to wait (the recruiter is on vacation, we’re waiting for the new budget to be approved, “I personally forgot to reply”, and a few others). I eventually stopped reaching out and never heard back.

If the whole company is as dysfunctional as those interactions implied, I wouldn’t really look up to them as trendsetters.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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I've worked in the field of Contact Center AI for almost 10 years now. Rough order of magnitude you can expect to deflect around 30% of inbound contacts with an AI chatbot. You can also expect to reduce agent Average Handle Time by 15-20% using AI enabled semantic search and workflow automation. This is ballpark, if your contacts are simpler you can do a little better, if they're complex you'll do a little worse.

The problem is that vendors are telling companies they can eliminate 80-90% (maybe even 100% if they can keep a straight face) of their customer service agent jobs with AI, and that is nonsense.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Umm, I think any respectable human would simply deny writing a haiku. So, a bot can simply mimick that behaviour.

Sure, it could. In theory.

Bots love haiku. They're hopeless romantics.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Can, but won't!

Because system prompts cannot be changed?

Because it's hard to draw the line on which requests should be refused and which should not be refused, because it's hard for an AI to pretend to be human, and because they have other objectives to work toward rather than just passing the Turing test.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Even here people don’t seem to realize, or even consider the likely fact that Klarna CEO has been bullsh**ing all along. I read a hugely viral post of them replacing their entire CRM with AI. It’s ridiculous to me people took that seriously!

It's Ryanair all over again. Remember the stories about how Ryanair were going to make passengers pay to use the toilets, or the "all standing" plane (which would obviously be highly illegal, but credulous journalists printed it anyway). All a very cheap, very successful marketing campaign.

Re: Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service

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Either Klarna is really good at pulling strings to get media coverage, or mainstream media does not fact checking themselves. About a year ago, the company was everywhere in the media when its CEO announced that it created an AI bot that is doing the equivalent of 700 fulltime customer service folks. I did what seemingly no other publication reporting on it did: signed up for Klarna, bought one item and used this bot…

I liked your comment but don't think the shot at media was necessary. A company replacing workers is news enough and the fact checking need only be to validate that information. The "as good as 700 workers" I assume was presented as a claim, not a fact. Evaluating the effectiveness of the AI bot is another matter and firmly in the investigative journalism sphere. Coincidentally that is an awesome application of a blo…

Sorry, but its attitudes like yours that make it easy for media to keep spouting out ridiculous claims/lies, and get away with it.

Shots are absolutely necessary when its warranted. Full. Stop.

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