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Re: Slow software for a burning world

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post #29

These sites are easy to figure out. Go to Main Page Scroll down to go to the "Code of Conduct" Search on "Reverse" Read "Our community prioritises marginalised people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort. Moderators reserve the right not to act on complaints regarding: ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia.’ or critiques of racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressiv…

Sigh. There is no such thing as reverse-isms. For example discrimination based on race is racism, objectively. Creating a reverse-ism out of that subjectively singles out a particular identity to champion. An effective code of conduct would not mention such subjectivity in any form.

Racists will always find a way to make ending racism “illegal” (they write those “laws”). Love how the US Civil Rights Acts and various emancipation clauses always contain loopholes to re-enslave folk. Like using civil rights law - mostly constructed to make life for formerly enslaved Africans plausible - now being used to erase, incarcerate, unemploy, de-legitimize, kidnap, and perform deportation of the same folks it was intended to protect. It was never “color blind” because slavery was not “color blind” (the terms always re-inscribe the borders of racism and ableism don’t they?) Never trust colonizer “law” or “logic”. Rant done.

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#52

I cannot figure out what Bonfire is . - The homepage has a bunch of "Bonfire is...", but they don't tell me much about how Bonfire achieves any of those goals like to be a "commons". - There's a codebase and documentation, but it comes in six different "flavours" , although I can only really differentiate between two. - Most of the FAQs just say "wip". - It proudly states that there are no ads, no tracking, etc, but…

Thanks because I was wondering if I just wasn’t “in the know”. They should do a better job at marketing, especially since it’s relatively unknown.

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#53

I cannot figure out what Bonfire is . - The homepage has a bunch of "Bonfire is...", but they don't tell me much about how Bonfire achieves any of those goals like to be a "commons". - There's a codebase and documentation, but it comes in six different "flavours" , although I can only really differentiate between two. - Most of the FAQs just say "wip". - It proudly states that there are no ads, no tracking, etc, but…

docs seem pretty straightforward:

- Ember - social networking toolkit

- Social - fb/activitypub feed like

- Community - fb groups (wonder if they have voting based admin)

- Open Science - a peer review app?

- Coordination - ticket/kanban/w/e productivity software

- Cooperation - fb marketplace?

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#54

Slightly unrelated maybe, but I'm really hoping that the https://once.com model would take off. That would be the change I would want to see in the software world. It's more simpler to understand than governance, public interest, etc. Just pay once and own the software. I really don't think software is that deep or has many philosophical implications.

The "once model" is just classic computing and it is alive and well. Most of the highest quality software work on the pay once model, and generally it's very affordable.

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#55
post #34

I did not understand what this is about from the article. It is social and wants to empower people, but how? From reading the 'about' page I understood that this is a new social media platform in the Fediverse. Now there is obviously one question: why should I participate in this and not in the existing projects like Mastodon? Why did you split up? I suggest the Bonfire people should put the answer to that question o…

Why not participating in Mastodon? Because nobody really wanted a Twitter clone and the project is losing its momentum. Lemmy is 1000x better even if the total amount of users is less in absolute numbers. Why using Bonfire? The first thing that comes up to me from the website is that this model of community-focused development seems more resilient to the wave of AI slop. A small Mastodon instance with 30-40 active pe…

> Lemmy is 1000x better even if the total amount of users is less in absolute numbers

This is so true, I've had to put a timer on how much I can use it as I'm addicted like the old school reddit days

I think all it'll take is reddit messing up and lemmy.world might be the new front page of the internet

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#56

I cannot figure out what Bonfire is . - The homepage has a bunch of "Bonfire is...", but they don't tell me much about how Bonfire achieves any of those goals like to be a "commons". - There's a codebase and documentation, but it comes in six different "flavours" , although I can only really differentiate between two. - Most of the FAQs just say "wip". - It proudly states that there are no ads, no tracking, etc, but…

The website reads like zombo.com except its not meant to be a joke.

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#57
Funny how I read the title as "slow software is burning the world", as in: slow/unoptimized software wastes energy, a good portion of that energy comes from fossil fuels, so it is literally burning the world.

But anyways, it looks like some kind of framework for social networks that is highly politicized and supposedly puts people at the forefront but has no problem using AI slop for its illustrations.

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#58

I cannot figure out what Bonfire is . - The homepage has a bunch of "Bonfire is...", but they don't tell me much about how Bonfire achieves any of those goals like to be a "commons". - There's a codebase and documentation, but it comes in six different "flavours" , although I can only really differentiate between two. - Most of the FAQs just say "wip". - It proudly states that there are no ads, no tracking, etc, but…

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Re: Slow software for a burning world

#59
post #57

Funny how I read the title as "slow software is burning the world", as in: slow/unoptimized software wastes energy, a good portion of that energy comes from fossil fuels, so it is literally burning the world. But anyways, it looks like some kind of framework for social networks that is highly politicized and supposedly puts people at the forefront but has no problem using AI slop for its illustrations.

My understanding of how ActivityPub software tends to operate says that while this may be slow, it probably will burn the world a bit more... Just see Ted Unangst's posts about writing Honk (and dealing with the behavior of other implementations)

Re: Slow software for a burning world

#60
post #2

I see we still haven't learned to put a summary of what your product is/does near the start of any big announcement.

They kind of have, because their product is not a thing, but a social environment.

I like people like this and admire their purpose, but they often don't make anything but manifestos. I make stuff, and I'm friends with other people who are sympathetic with this sort of thing and also make stuff.

Periodically we all make stuff and give it out to people, which in its own way helps cool the burning world, I guess. And folks like this make another manifesto when the previous ones didn't get people like me and my friends to lay down our tools and go to work for them.

It's a challenge, sort of. By which I mean: if the job is to get lots of things made, not so much. But if the job is to think this stuff out, well they're doing more of that than I am. I don't get a lot of help, or seek it: I'm focussed on what is waiting to be done within my jurisdiction. That's a limiting factor, but it serves my purposes :)

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