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Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by ty6853 »

kcmastrpc wrote: post #27
paxys wrote: post #4

"I went on a weekend trip and didn't invite friend A, so I hope friend B keeps it a secret and doesn't tell anyone I was there" is the kind of social dynamic that people grow out of in high school. If you are having trouble with it as an adult then it isn't really Instagram's fault. People talk to each other and share stuff, and sometimes they talk about you, both online and offline. Just live your life without being…

I've tried to incorporate the notion that it's none of my business what other people think of me. I don't always get it right, but having that attitude has helped tremendously on reducing my cortisol levels.

This is a huge relief, but it does come at a cost. What other people think of you is one of the largest inputs to access to jobs, sexual partners, and likelihood you'll be referred or witnessed against for prosecution for some inane zoning/HOA ordinance or petty crime (whether you did it or not) because you're not on someone's good side, etc etc. So the high cortisol levels may be warranted from the Darwinist perspective.

Having a good thing happen or preventing bad things from happening sadly show up as high stakes butterfly effects of the perverted social ranking and opinion games.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by soulofmischief »

w29UiIm2Xz wrote: post #41
hammock wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. It hurts people's feelings to find out they weren't invited to something they thought they should have been. Protecting feelings and smoothing out awkward social dynamics are the the category of "very adult." As a more general example, you wouldn't talk about a happy hour you were going to after work with people who weren't invited/aren't invited/you wouldn't invite. I believe every sitcom on the planet h…

It's both things. Being an adult means not being overly bothered if you weren't invited, and it's also very adult to prevent the situation where the uninvited friend doesn't find out, out of concern for their feelings. Both are simply approaching it from different ends.

I'm in my thirties now, and I have been on my own since I was homeless at sixteen. One thing I have learned about being an adult is it means that you have no obligation to seriously consider any other person's idea of what being an adult means.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by kube-system »

paxys wrote: post #43
lostmsu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In US, if that was a private event, his request is legally binding.

Unless you agreed to the terms before buying your ticket, no, it isn't legally binding.

RMS prefers his events to be open to the public

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by lostmsu »

bobismyuncle wrote: post #39
lostmsu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In US, if that was a private event, his request is legally binding.

How would this work in practice if it was litigated? Wouldn't you need proof that this was expressly communicated to the specific individual that violated and that they did so knowingly? Seems like it probably isn't enforceable...

In this case I think it might be, because if the event was recorded presumably so was the request to not share.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by [deleted] »

soulofmischief wrote: post #52
w29UiIm2Xz wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's both things. Being an adult means not being overly bothered if you weren't invited, and it's also very adult to prevent the situation where the uninvited friend doesn't find out, out of concern for their feelings. Both are simply approaching it from different ends.

I'm in my thirties now, and I have been on my own since I was homeless at sixteen. One thing I have learned about being an adult is it means that you have no obligation to seriously consider any other person's idea of what being an adult means.

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Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by lostmsu »

paxys wrote: post #43
lostmsu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In US, if that was a private event, his request is legally binding.

Unless you agreed to the terms before buying your ticket, no, it isn't legally binding.

I may have been wrong in that RMS does not have that power, but the property owner does. Not sure if this is a universal rule or not.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by panstromek »

A think this is partly why a lot of this activity moved into private group chats, where it's more naturally segregated by social circles. Most people around me are pretty active on social media but vast majority of that activity is not in the public profile.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by mvdtnz »

jjulius wrote: post #33
firefoxd wrote: post #6

The social etiquette argument has been thrown away with the bath water. You are now the weirdo with something to hide when you are not on Instagram or Tiktok. The term I like is Social Cooling, the subtle way in which people change their behavior because they are both present in person and online. Have you ever heard some use the term "unalive" in person? It's as if they are protecting themselves from an algorithm, a…

>You are now the weirdo with something to hide when you are not on Instagram or Tiktok. You might call me a "weirdo", but this has absolutely not been my experience whatsoever. Friends, family and coworkers don't really give a shit that I don't participate in social media, and I haven't been treated any differently for it. Edit: And hell, generally, what's life without a bit of weird? The homogeneity of everyone doin…

It just be a regional thing. I don't know a single person who uses Instagram.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by bobthepanda »

mjevans wrote: post #10
paxys wrote: post #4

"I went on a weekend trip and didn't invite friend A, so I hope friend B keeps it a secret and doesn't tell anyone I was there" is the kind of social dynamic that people grow out of in high school. If you are having trouble with it as an adult then it isn't really Instagram's fault. People talk to each other and share stuff, and sometimes they talk about you, both online and offline. Just live your life without being…

Less 'keep it secret' and more 'don't make a big public deal out of private memories'.

is a group trip a private memory?

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by mhitza »

netsharc wrote: post #7

> Imagine a friend you were on a weekend trip with. This friend talks with another common friend. This common friend could have equally well been on that weekend trip because you like him or her but, due to circumstances, as is life, you did not invite him. You probably would feel uncomfortable with that first friend talking about that trip as if it was the most awesome trip ever, that everyone had non-stop fun and n…

> I wonder if they can even advertise to you through your friends, hah,

Probably did so through shadow profiles

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_profile

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