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Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by goosedragons »

stevenwoo wrote: post #39
goosedragons wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pokemon is it's own weird situation. It's not solely owned by Nintendo, but co-owned and managed with Game Freak and Creatures Inc by The Pokemon Company. It's not just a game but a media empire. They have to coordinate between the game, anime and TCG. It's not quite the same as Zelda or Mario where they have complete control and don't have to worry about messing with dozens of other product launches if the game need…

Game Freak’s latest Nintendo offerings are subpar compared to somewhat open world offerings from the Wii generation like Xenoblade Chronicles and Breath of the Wild. They are just milking the Pokémon player base.

IDK, personally I had more fun with Scarlet/Violet and Legends Arceus than Xenoblade Chronicles (30 hours too long IMO). Technically they are both flawed but the game play is fun and they have made a lot of changes from past entries.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by chii »

jimbob45 wrote: post #17
neuroelectron wrote: post #14

This is a bit different situation than Nintendo and it's not fair to compare the two. The mod requires the base game where Nintendo software is hardware coupled. Furthermore, Bethesda has monetized mods directly (the Creation Club).

Let’s call a spade a spade. Nintendo litigates worse than any other company and they never drop prices. I can look the other way because they’re otherwise very good to their customers but they do have genuine faults.

Nintendo doesn't litigate if they believe the community project won't impact their sales/profits.

For example, wii homebrew is not taken down by nintendo, even if there has been a recent "discovery" that the wii homebrew had relied on decompiled nintendo SDKs.

Nintendo's litigious intention always has been profit driven (and this includes vaguely IP related issues, such as palworld's game mechanics - which i think is frivilous but apparently not according to the courts).

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by chii »

Wobbles42 wrote: post #4
tmpz22 wrote: post #2

Bethesda knows support for the official remake would go down the toilet if they did anything but praise for the unofficial remake. Its hard to take Bethesda on good faith on this.

I am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. They may or may not be doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, but at least they ARE doing the right thing. That decision was made by a set of humans, and likely at least some of them are well meaning. In any case the corporate entity as a whole is not conscious. A strictly behavioralist approach is appropriate there. If it does the good thing it gets the carr…

while i do give them benefit of the doubt, the support for the skybilvion fan remake is in effect a way to sell and market an old game (skyrim's sale has been on the decline but for these fan projects).

The moment such a project might affect sales in some way (that i am unable to imagine right now, but is possible surely), they will backpedal and find ways to take it down.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by nottorp »

chii wrote: post #52
jimbob45 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s call a spade a spade. Nintendo litigates worse than any other company and they never drop prices. I can look the other way because they’re otherwise very good to their customers but they do have genuine faults.

Nintendo doesn't litigate if they believe the community project won't impact their sales/profits. For example, wii homebrew is not taken down by nintendo, even if there has been a recent "discovery" that the wii homebrew had relied on decompiled nintendo SDKs. Nintendo's litigious intention always has been profit driven (and this includes vaguely IP related issues, such as palworld's game mechanics - which i think is…

So you have to gamble on your project not affecting Nintendo's unpublished plans.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by esperent »

jemmyw wrote: post #13

Bethesda doesn't think anything. Some people in leadership there think this. It would be very nice if they codeified what "support" means and the circumstances around it into company policy so that fans know what is what while that policy is in place (and who to blame if the policy is abandoned).

If the policy can be abandoned it has no meaning anyway beyond being a marketing stunt.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by studentik »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #50
npteljes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the same about how media presents news regarding to nations. Russia attacks instead of Putin's army attacks, Brussels denies instead of EU officials deny, etc. It irks me so much, especially in a world where we pretend to do away with racism. Because what these headlines end up reinforce are just stereotypes. Which just keeps the people in their bubbles, wasting the chance of them learning something new about…

It's Russia and russians that is attacking not Putin. Even Russian oposition fully supports war

What opposition? Take a stopwatch, stand by the subway with an blank sheet of paper and count seconds before you are arrested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd7Zs9K46Vc

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by jemmyw »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #50
npteljes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the same about how media presents news regarding to nations. Russia attacks instead of Putin's army attacks, Brussels denies instead of EU officials deny, etc. It irks me so much, especially in a world where we pretend to do away with racism. Because what these headlines end up reinforce are just stereotypes. Which just keeps the people in their bubbles, wasting the chance of them learning something new about…

It's Russia and russians that is attacking not Putin. Even Russian oposition fully supports war

Do you mean the Russian opposition who are actually opposed to Putin and persecuted out of the country / existence, or the opposition Putin allows to exist to make elections appear legitimate? One of those doesn't support the war, and one of those isn't really an opposition.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by TiredOfLife »

jemmyw wrote: post #57
TiredOfLife wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's Russia and russians that is attacking not Putin. Even Russian oposition fully supports war

Do you mean the Russian opposition who are actually opposed to Putin and persecuted out of the country / existence, or the opposition Putin allows to exist to make elections appear legitimate? One of those doesn't support the war, and one of those isn't really an opposition.

They are opposed to Putin not war.

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by smus »

chii wrote: post #52
jimbob45 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s call a spade a spade. Nintendo litigates worse than any other company and they never drop prices. I can look the other way because they’re otherwise very good to their customers but they do have genuine faults.

Nintendo doesn't litigate if they believe the community project won't impact their sales/profits. For example, wii homebrew is not taken down by nintendo, even if there has been a recent "discovery" that the wii homebrew had relied on decompiled nintendo SDKs. Nintendo's litigious intention always has been profit driven (and this includes vaguely IP related issues, such as palworld's game mechanics - which i think is…

Nintendo sent cease and desists to streamed super smash Brothers melee tournaments during covid. Buncha free advertising to their IP by a group of their most passionate fans

Re: Bethesda Thinks Fan Remaster of Oblivion Is 'Very Special' and Supports It

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Post by rendaw »

jemmyw wrote: post #13

Bethesda doesn't think anything. Some people in leadership there think this. It would be very nice if they codeified what "support" means and the circumstances around it into company policy so that fans know what is what while that policy is in place (and who to blame if the policy is abandoned).

It feels pretty likely that it's not even company leadership? Lead dev is not company leadership, and someone higher up next week could decide they don't like it and sic lawyers on the project.
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