Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 02, 2025, 3:22 AM UTC

poink wrote: post #11

_heimdall wrote: post #3

It seems reasonable enough that the government may have built a forked version of signal with message archiving that meets documentation requirements. If its an app they wanted kept under wraps, it will make the while Hegseth situation seem a lot more benign. I use Molly Messenger on a secondary phone that doesn't have a SIM, its a fork of Signal with a few differences related to encryption at rest. It still works wi…

It's not only reasonable the US government should be archiving communications between officials, it should be compulsory. We've already had problems with this re: agents of government agencies like CBP and big bankers using E2EE messaging apps to skirt regulatory requirements. That said, whether this makes the situation better or worse depends on who can actually see these archives. "Smarsh" is a US-based company, bu…

Post by bigfatkitten » Fri, May 02, 2025, 3:26 AM UTC

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #33

>>> overnment agencies have paid for versions of encrypted messaging apps that also have archive abilities before. In 2021, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) paid encrypted app company Wickr $700,000. This seems like a perfect use case to support Signal. Have large, corporate or govt entities, pay for a custom fork of the app, built by the app developers themselves. Why is telemessage getting the money ? Does the S…

Post by inhumantsar » Fri, May 02, 2025, 3:30 AM UTC

dmix wrote: post #44

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #33

>>> overnment agencies have paid for versions of encrypted messaging apps that also have archive abilities before. In 2021, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) paid encrypted app company Wickr $700,000. This seems like a perfect use case to support Signal. Have large, corporate or govt entities, pay for a custom fork of the app, built by the app developers themselves. Why is telemessage getting the money ? Does the S…

90% of the work is probably compliance and gov contract hoop jumping, not the code.

Post by Titan2189 » Fri, May 02, 2025, 3:35 AM UTC

denkmoon wrote: post #6

mmastrac wrote: post #4

> TM SGNL appears to refer to a piece of software from a company called TeleMessage which makes clones of popular messaging apps but adds an archiving capability to each of them

Crikey that's terrifying. Not even a US company either.

Post by Nifty3929 » Fri, May 02, 2025, 3:42 AM UTC

steamrolled wrote: post #41

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #33

>>> overnment agencies have paid for versions of encrypted messaging apps that also have archive abilities before. In 2021, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) paid encrypted app company Wickr $700,000. This seems like a perfect use case to support Signal. Have large, corporate or govt entities, pay for a custom fork of the app, built by the app developers themselves. Why is telemessage getting the money ? Does the S…

If Signal becomes financially dependent on government contracts, the govt gains a lot of leverage over the app. I'm not sure that's a great position for this particular platform to be in.