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Re: Still standing

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Post by john-h-k »

chris_wot wrote: post #26
john-h-k wrote: post #22

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> To practice free speech requires an intent to express a point of view Excellent, now we can ban speech we don’t like by just saying it doesn’t actually express a point of view

You can't yell out in a theatre that there is a fire and cause a stampede.

Absolutely. Point is we have to judge it in context. People saying horrible things for no reason on a message board is fundamentally different to causing a stampede in a cinema.

I agree that we need laws to make "yelling fire and causing stampedes" illegal. I do not agree that "free speech requires an intent to express a point of view" is the correct way of implementing this.

Re: Still standing

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Post by reginald78 »

torben-friis wrote: post #18

Does 4chan contain anything worth checking nowadays? I remember visiting the site as a teenager to check rage comics, and even for the abrasion of the internet of the time it was too shocking for anything beyond an occasional look - random gore, pictures of underage girls, racist tirades and the like. I know some people enjoy that Wild West, lack of rules environment for some reason, but is there any content that’s w…

I've heard there's a lot of local AI discussions there that don't really occur anywhere else.

Re: Still standing

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Post by gruez »

chris_wot wrote: post #50
mrandish wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://archive.is/iZC4v Hopefully, that works. It's the first time I've done an archive like that. It works for me, but it always did because I'm using the Bypass Paywalls Clean add-on in Firefox https://gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bpc_uploads

So, you can yell "fire" falsely and cause a stampede? Alex Jones would like a word with you.

Yes, because the current supreme court standard is "imminent lawless action".

Re: Still standing

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Post by transcriptase »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #45
transcriptase wrote: post #32

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Get real. Companies with infinitely more money, staff, and robust security practices are hacked every day. The only difference is they put out a vague generic corpospeak statement whereas this one admitted it was caused by a skeleton crew on a shoestring budget getting caught out. Given the nature of their user base and how many others would love to see 4chan go down, if things were as bad as you imply then hackers w…

Source? I have never heard of a bank’s core mainframes being hacked in the last decade (outside of pen tests), even for mid size banks outside the global top 100.

https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches...

Re: Still standing

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Post by j_bum »

sadeshmukh wrote: post #46
j_bum wrote: post #42

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According to a Firebase video [0], the outdated and exploited package was called GhostScript. [0] https://youtu.be/XNratwOrSiY?si=dxfD8Y7-wfOi0XcJ

Fireship is the channel name - firebase is the product he initially had based his channel off

Oops - thanks for correcting my typo

Re: Still standing

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Post by clarionbell »

torben-friis wrote: post #18

Does 4chan contain anything worth checking nowadays? I remember visiting the site as a teenager to check rage comics, and even for the abrasion of the internet of the time it was too shocking for anything beyond an occasional look - random gore, pictures of underage girls, racist tirades and the like. I know some people enjoy that Wild West, lack of rules environment for some reason, but is there any content that’s w…

One of those things (the one that's definitely illegal) is gone for long time now. I think more than a decade. The rest is very much still there.

Re: Still standing

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Post by MichaelZuo »

sjdrc wrote: post #48
MichaelZuo wrote: post #45

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Source? I have never heard of a bank’s core mainframes being hacked in the last decade (outside of pen tests), even for mid size banks outside the global top 100.

What are you talking about? There are massive breaches of huge companies who should be doing better all the time. In 2017: > More than 40% of the population of America was potentially impacted by the Equifax data breach. In 2022: > In September 2022, Optus experienced a major data breach that exposed the personal information of millions of customers That's just 2 off the top of my head.

Did you miss the words “bank” and “core mainframes”?

i.e. what they actually might spend millions of dollars per week on securing.

Re: Still standing

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Post by MichaelZuo »

transcriptase wrote: post #54
MichaelZuo wrote: post #45

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Source? I have never heard of a bank’s core mainframes being hacked in the last decade (outside of pen tests), even for mid size banks outside the global top 100.

https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches...

These are not the core mainframes… the only parts that actually get what might be called lavish spending on security.

Everything else outside of that… banks obviously have incentives to cut security spending to as low as possible.

Re: Still standing

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Post by skyyler »

chris_wot wrote: post #50
mrandish wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://archive.is/iZC4v Hopefully, that works. It's the first time I've done an archive like that. It works for me, but it always did because I'm using the Bypass Paywalls Clean add-on in Firefox https://gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bpc_uploads

So, you can yell "fire" falsely and cause a stampede? Alex Jones would like a word with you.

Alex Jones defamed families by lying about the details of their children's deaths on his internet show. Courts have decided that his actions count as defamation.

Why did you bring him up here? Do you think his being punished for profiting off of the defamation of school children is a violation of his first amendment rights?

Re: Still standing

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Post by transcriptase »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #58
transcriptase wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches...

These are not the core mainframes… the only parts that actually get what might be called lavish spending on security. Everything else outside of that… banks obviously have incentives to cut security spending to as low as possible.

Nobody is comparing 4chan to bank mainframes except you. I can’t give a source for something I didn’t claim in the first place.
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