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California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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The title almost implies that CA had some unnatural acceleration to put it past japan. I think it's more that japan has been declining. This won't last once the US population starts declining. We've been held afloat by immigration but even that's running out. Japan was ahead of the curve in terms of modernity. Looking at them is almost like looking at our own future.

The US has immigration

Japan might want to consider it soon too.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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It's funny that the list includes both California and the US. It would be interesting to compare economies of the same scale, regardless of legal status: If you are considering the US and China, maybe you should include the whole of the EU. And if you are looking at Germany, Japan, ... It makes sense to not only include California, but also to split up other countries. I'm curious how high up Guandong or Shanghai wou…

The EU is very frequently included in data comparing nation states, along with it's individual members. It's the only supranational organization usually included on those kinds of lists, though sometimes you'll see groups like the G20.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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I doubt its realistic for powerful states like California to cecede. Is there a path from here to a near (think 50 years) future, where California and the US, sans California, exist?

I don't want the US to break up. But I wonder if it wouldn't be more healthy for you if the states grew a bit more independent. It would give the president less power to decide exactly how schools and universities should be run or would open up for social welfare reforms in the states that want it.

Fun to see people derive Federalism from first principles.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All our GDP is in software. We don't know how to make anything except AI and web apps. We wouldn't know what to do with a nuke.

In that case, all of Russia GDP is oil and natural gas

Which you can turn into energy, TBD if you can do that with a web app.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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I personally yearn for the balkanisation of the US. That's unironically why I think a TEXIT would be very beneficial to the rest of the world. The more the Empire fights itself, the weaker it is, and the freer the world becomes.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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While a low effort comment, it does touch on an important topic. Imagine if CA was run with the kind of efficiency that Singapore or South Korea was run. Clean, safe streets. Modern infrastructure. Instead we get a state government that is going to waste the goose that laid the golden egg. The high taxes paid disappear in a black hole centered in Sacramento. CA reminds me of New Jersey. Other states used to be jealou…

Panhandling / begging and sleeping in public places is punishable with prison time (assuming you can't pay the massive fine) in Singapore.

California wouldn't be California if it was run like Singapore or if it had the 9-9 chaebol work culture like South Korea.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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post #43

The title almost implies that CA had some unnatural acceleration to put it past japan. I think it's more that japan has been declining. This won't last once the US population starts declining. We've been held afloat by immigration but even that's running out. Japan was ahead of the curve in terms of modernity. Looking at them is almost like looking at our own future.

The US has immigration

Magically, immigration is the _one_ supply shock that has zero impact on wages. Or, the _one_ demand shock that has zero impact on housing prices. The only impact it apparently does have is to make the GDP number go up.

Re: California overtakes Japan to become the world's fourth largest economy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want the US to break up. But I wonder if it wouldn't be more healthy for you if the states grew a bit more independent. It would give the president less power to decide exactly how schools and universities should be run or would open up for social welfare reforms in the states that want it.

Fun to see people derive Federalism from first principles.

I mean, a United States of America would be better. But not the Bickering States of America that exists. Might be better to have them all go their own way.
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