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Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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"Google blocked phone-making also-ran from preinstalling crapware their own users don't want, doing them a big favor."

Motorola is one of the better phone manufacturers, though. Hardly any bloat, usually able to root easily, decent support from other operating systems, reasonably priced, and with decent battery life.

I still struggle to see what phones at 10x the price actually provide.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

Google is a convicted monopolist, so it has to play by different rules.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

They blocked Perplexity via agreements, amongst many agreements to fortify their monopoly, the legality of which has been challenged in court and this testimony is to demonstrate that this agreement also belongs in the "illegal" bucket.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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It continues to baffle me that Google gets harassed by the courts for being a better actor in almost every area it participates. Open source Android vs. closed iOS Install apps from any source on Android vs. total restriction on iOS Switch default app for browser (and many other things!) vs. No choice but Safari tech on iOS Easy switch of search provider in Chrome vs. countless dark patterns pushing Edge and Bing on…

Android is hardly open source if it’s developed behind closed doors and final version released. It’s pretending.

Are you confused between open source and open development?

Isn't the source fully open?

Edit:

If I made a movie, and made the files freely available after I make it and let you do whatever you want with it

.. would you insist that it isn't "open" because you didn't see me argue with my editor or the 100 times I iterates on the end scene or whether your idea for chase sequence was not incorporated?

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

> They signed the agreement, and now are going to courts to claim they had no choice.

Did the title change? They (Lenovo) are going to court? This is an antitrust case against Google and the witness is not part of the agreement signed. Is Lenovo suing Google?

The title is representing the witness (perplexity) stance, not Lenovo's. And given it's a antitrust suit it seems like a very valid stance.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android is hardly open source if it’s developed behind closed doors and final version released. It’s pretending.

Are you confused between open source and open development? Isn't the source fully open? Edit: If I made a movie, and made the files freely available after I make it and let you do whatever you want with it .. would you insist that it isn't "open" because you didn't see me argue with my editor or the 100 times I iterates on the end scene or whether your idea for chase sequence was not incorporated?

No they changed their development process to do it behind closed doors and release the code after final release.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you confused between open source and open development? Isn't the source fully open? Edit: If I made a movie, and made the files freely available after I make it and let you do whatever you want with it .. would you insist that it isn't "open" because you didn't see me argue with my editor or the 100 times I iterates on the end scene or whether your idea for chase sequence was not incorporated?

No they changed their development process to do it behind closed doors and release the code after final release.

Again, I ask isn't that still open source?

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're being harassed for lying about being a better actor. Apple gets to be a controlling asshole because there's no legal requirement for tech companies to not be. Google tried to have their cake and eat it too. iOS is a package deal: you use our OS on our phones with our App Store and browser. Very straightforward and honest, even if we rightly hate the deal. This all relies on basic protections of IP law that th…

The factual info in your reference "[0]" makes no sense. The writer (and illustrator) of the Dilbert cartoon is Scott Adams [1]. I have no idea what the name you referenced has anything to do with it, other than some Japanese software. Or was all of part of your comment written by an LLM? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert

Saying Hatsune Miku made X is a common joke on Twitter/Tumblr when the original person to do so has reprehensible political beliefs.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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Did anyone read this article? The headline is misleading. It clearly states in the first line: > "Google’s contract with Lenovo Group Ltd.’s Motorola blocked the smartphone maker from setting Perplexity AI as the default assistant on its new devices" They didn't block Perplexity AI from Motorola's devices, the agreement states that they allow them to preload the devices with Perplexity, but the agreement, that both p…

> They signed the agreement, and now are going to courts to claim they had no choice. Did the title change? They (Lenovo) are going to court? This is an antitrust case against Google and the witness is not part of the agreement signed. Is Lenovo suing Google? The title is representing the witness (perplexity) stance, not Lenovo's. And given it's a antitrust suit it seems like a very valid stance.

Read it again perhaps? Without any of that context, it just reads like "google blocked [some/all] use of Perplexity AI on [some/all] Motorola devices"

Try not to overthink it.

Re: Google contract prevented Motorola from setting Perplexity as default assistant

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"Google blocked phone-making also-ran from preinstalling crapware their own users don't want, doing them a big favor."

Motorola is one of the better phone manufacturers, though. Hardly any bloat, usually able to root easily, decent support from other operating systems, reasonably priced, and with decent battery life. I still struggle to see what phones at 10x the price actually provide.

I got a Motorola Razr because it was an affordable folding phone and was shocked by how nice it is. As in I, a cheapskate, may actually have brand loyalty now.
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