I hate that "scientific papers" do not have date of publication.
Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
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Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why choose a format that resembles a published article instead? ...It is in a format that resembles a published article because it is going to be a published article? "This is a preprint of a chapter that will appear in the book Designing an Intelligence, published by MIT Press." on the first page. > As for the graph, it’s too generic A history of RL from DQN to AlphaProof/LLM computer use in Gemini is not 'generic…
> ...It is in a format that resembles a published article because it is going to be a published article? "This is a preprint of a chapter that will appear in the book Designing an Intelligence, published by MIT Press." on the first page. It doesn't make any difference and doesn't invalidate my critique. It appears to be a science communication book, so it could easily be a web page. Even if it was a LaTeXish PDF ther…
> It doesn't make any difference and doesn't invalidate my critique. It appears to be a science communication book, so it could easily be a web page. Even if it was a LaTeXish PDF there were multiple ways to not making it a PDF that resembles a scientific article, there's a precise choice being made about how to communicate. The medium is the message.
If this is really your response, I agree with your original comment about you being burned-out.
Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#53Is it me or this is yet another PR stunt masked as a serious article with LaTeX and all the fancy things? The graph doesn’t even make sense. I’m burning out from all this hypester type of thing, it’s really really tiring.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm relieved to see I wasn't the only one.
And they imitate the style pretty well. It's kinda funny. (I don't follow this topic closely (I clicked because I imagined something entirely different from the title), so it's the first time I see it)
Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...It is in a format that resembles a published article because it is going to be a published article? "This is a preprint of a chapter that will appear in the book Designing an Intelligence, published by MIT Press." on the first page. It doesn't make any difference and doesn't invalidate my critique. It appears to be a science communication book, so it could easily be a web page. Even if it was a LaTeXish PDF ther…
> It doesn't make any difference and doesn't invalidate my critique. It appears to be a science communication book, so it could easily be a web page. Even if it was a LaTeXish PDF there were multiple ways to not making it a PDF that resembles a scientific article, there's a precise choice being made about how to communicate. The medium is the message. If this is really your response, I agree with your original commen…
Shifting from addressing the substance to referencing a personal remark like my joke about “burning out” from AI hype doesn't strength your argument. I expected more from someone in “EA/rationalism”. In retrospect, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised when substantive critique about presentation format gets poisoned with a personal comment rather than discussing the actual points about how scientific information is communicated. The medium is indeed the message. Bye.
Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#55Related: https://www.deepmind.com/publications/reward-is-enough . Not sure if I buy the reward is enough hypothesis though. Imo an AI with a fixed reward function doesn't seem like agi to me
That link is dead now?
But I guess you mean this? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000437022...
"Reward is enough", David Silver, Satinder Singh, Doina Precup, Richard S. Sutton, 2021.
Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#56Related: https://www.deepmind.com/publications/reward-is-enough . Not sure if I buy the reward is enough hypothesis though. Imo an AI with a fixed reward function doesn't seem like agi to me
"Imo an AI with a fixed reward function doesn't seem like agi to me"
They specifically talk about this in the position paper and describe the need for a "flexible" reward function that's adaptive. It's very hand-wavy and doesn't really describe how they would do this, but there's a lot of research along these lines. "agi" is also not really the subject of the paper.
Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amplifying stupid can be very deadly, though. In some sense, the printing press caused the 30-year war, and radio brought us World War II. Eventually, society will adapt. I just wish we could find a way to adapt faster than the bad actors do.
> In some sense, the printing press caused the 30-year war, Well the 30-year war definitely showed technology-driven speed-up. Before the printing press we had wars that lasted for 100 years [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War
Just to be clear, that "speed-up" is not a good thing: Those 100 years were a lot less deadly in total. The World Wars were even shorter and much deadlier still. A possible next full-blown conflict between major powers will only last hours -- and end civilization.