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AI is turning us into glue

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Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by abletonlive »

eacapeisfutuile wrote: post #29
rglover wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like I said, in the short-term this will sound false, but in the long-term I expect it to be frighteningly accurate. > I literally can't distinguish between reddit commenters and HN commenters. No need to condescend. I have a fair amount of experience building with and using these tools daily. I'm not just some "reddit idiot." > So in this fantasy everybody is vibe coding code that lasts for 10+ years and everybody s…

You are not wrong and that is a rational and a plausible forecast.

Lazy comments like this shouldn't be accepted in this community. If you're going to post something at least explain why you think it is such. What is rational, what is plausible about their comment?

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

Nothing stopping anyone fixing thorny bugs for fun! And hobby computing is more accessible now than ever.

If you build stuff for others AI (mostly) removes typing and debugging from the equation; that frees you to think harder about what you’re building and how to make it most useful. And because you’re generally done sooner you can get the thing into your users’ hands sooner, increasing the iterations.

It’s win-win.

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by LoganDark »

blogabegonija wrote: post #50
LoganDark wrote: post #48

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That application of psychedelics is almost entirely dissimilar to what you are proposing. While a lot of the emerging research in the field is nice (and long overdue in my opinion), I would be absolutely floored if any of it recommended DMT for the treatment of dissenting opinions. It's not like I just also could use some DMT either, since I already use psychedelics on a damn near weekly basis. It's just not somethin…

Well, this field would not advance without experiments either https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-flip-two-atoms-in-lsd-an... https://www.amazon.com/AI-DMT-Simulating-Experience-through/...

Not like this.

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by blogabegonija »

LoganDark wrote: post #53
blogabegonija wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, this field would not advance without experiments either https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-flip-two-atoms-in-lsd-an... https://www.amazon.com/AI-DMT-Simulating-Experience-through/...

Not like this.

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Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by Havoc »

neom wrote: post #46
Havoc wrote: post #45

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> eventually the inputs to the LLM become stale. Seems plausible to me that they could just keep writing python 3.13 till the end of time. If you take say assembly - we didn’t stop writing it because it stopped working. As a functional building block programming seems feature complete

"As a functional building block programming seems feature complete" This might be one of the more fascinating things I've read in a long time. Care to expand upon? Would be genuinely curious.

Afraid there is no deep revelation lurking there.

All I meant is that programming seems reasonably protected against going LLM stale by virtue of being low level and malleable

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by xnx »

dehrmann wrote: post #16
turtlebits wrote: post #11

"I like fixing thorny bugs". Not me. Any tool that can get me to the solution faster is always welcome. IME, AI does well handling the boring parts.

And both are valid. Some people like building new products and features, some would rather fix existing ones.

I don't think that's the split being referred to. Some people (like myself) see code as a way to achieve a goal, and some people like writing code for the puzzle of it.

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by dinfinity »

eximius wrote: post #47

I'm still pretty pessimistic on all this. Just today, I had what should have been an obvious win for an LLM coding assistant to help me. I was writing a go function that converts one very long struct into a second very long struct. The transformation was almost entirely wrapping the fields of the first struct in a wrapper in a completely rote way. If FieldA was an int on src, I wanted a dest{ FieldA: Wrapper{ Value:…

Which one?

Can we please make it a convention that whenever anybody posts anything about some LLM experience they had, that they include which model and UI driving it they used?

Parent's post is like saying: I tried to send an email with a new email program and it didn't work.

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by eximius »

dinfinity wrote: post #57
eximius wrote: post #47

I'm still pretty pessimistic on all this. Just today, I had what should have been an obvious win for an LLM coding assistant to help me. I was writing a go function that converts one very long struct into a second very long struct. The transformation was almost entirely wrapping the fields of the first struct in a wrapper in a completely rote way. If FieldA was an int on src, I wanted a dest{ FieldA: Wrapper{ Value:…

Which one? Can we please make it a convention that whenever anybody posts anything about some LLM experience they had, that they include which model and UI driving it they used? Parent's post is like saying: I tried to send an email with a new email program and it didn't work.

VS Code + Github Copilot (Editor Inline Chat) + GPT-4o

Re: AI is turning us into glue

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Post by lucyjojo »

hnhn34 wrote: post #43
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #22

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Humans are fundamentally creators of tools and art and imaginary world - this is one of the factors that distinguishes us from animals. For most of human history, most humans spent a lot of their time creating. The very recent phenomena of a large fraction of humans creating almost nothing in their adult life is caused by modern economic systems, almost all of which force people to work so much every day that all the…

Throughout all stages of my schooling from kindergarten to college, there were always artists, tinkerers and builders, but they were never the majority. I can't think of any time in history, under any economic system, where humans who create tools and art were the majority. Most people just want to have families and enjoy life.

talk to people, pretty much everybody around you wants to make stuff.

be it music, cooking, drawing, house arrangement, get better at fishing, etc.

people with long gaps of "pure consumption" get depressed... (which is why i think it's important to protect kids from mobile phones, they're depression machines)

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