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JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by giancarlostoro »

qskousen wrote: post #46
giancarlostoro wrote: post #19

I used JetBrains AI for about a year, it was pretty good to basically help me to scaffold things, it felt like instructing a Junior developer, which isn't bad, saved me time for side projects. Some observations from the pricingpage: https://www.jetbrains.com/ai-ides/buy/?section=personal&bill... * They say free for all IDEs except the community version of PyCharm and IntelliJ. * Looks like if you want to use your own…

From the blog post, it seems to say that the free tier of the AI assistant and Junie both allow using local models. I haven't tried it myself, though.

Ah thank you, I'll have to experiment with this when I get home. I mostly use this stuff for personal projects.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by pdpi »

blibble wrote: post #28
pdpi wrote: post #7

> On top of all that, the All Products Pack and dotUltimate subscriptions will now come with AI Pro included. Well, colour me surprised. I've used JetBrains as an an example of a pretty decent company in the past (e.g. the way they remind you your subscription is up for renewal a couple of months in advance, so you have all the time in the world to unsub if you like), but I wasn't expecting them to just add this to t…

you can read this as no-one was buying the addon they'll eat the cost for a year or two, then bump up the subscription price to pay for it

I honestly doubt that’s the plan.

They’ve bumped up the price once in all the years I’ve been subscribed to the All Tools pack. When they did that, they gave existing subscribers the option to buy two years’ subscription at the old price.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by Doches »

mystified5016 wrote: post #35

I'd be a lot more excited about this if I weren't paying for a crappy VSCode clone.

Visual Studio Code was first released in 2015; Intellij (the original JetBrains IDE) was first released in 2001. Even Atom -- the editor that Microsoft forked to make VSCode -- had its first public release in 2014.

It's safe to say that JetBrains IDEs are something other than "crappy VSCode clones."

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by mjrpes »

netcan wrote: post #33
mike_hearn wrote: post #13

It's pretty surprising that they're willing to charge a flat rate rather than by token, but great news for users. It's inevitable that you get annoyed at AI when it consumes tokens and generates a bad answer, or starts reading files that aren't fully relevant. The flat rate takes away that bad taste. The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face if Junie's usag…

>The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting... If necessary they'll add an anti-abuse policy or whatnot to mitigate the heavy users. The sophisticated modeling is basically "just get going" with a g…

> Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting...

One difference I see: storage capacity and compute performance aren't increasing like they had in the past, so companies can't rely on these costs to dramatically drop in the future to offset bleeding cash initially to gain market share.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by rozhok »

basejumping wrote: post #49
shmatt wrote: post #4

Junie has been amazing for me, completely replaced my payments for Claude Code and Cursor. And it was free (until today). It's the least aggressive agent i've used, no complete re-writes or even close, And is able to achieve about 95% of what I ask of it The only downside - which might be fixed in the newest release - is that it completely forgets context between messages - even in the same message window. But that f…

Is there a way to use Claude within the Jetbrains IDEs? I have a Jetbrains IDE license, and a Claude subscription, but I couldn't find an integration. To use Claude and have it integrated I need to subscribe to Jebtbrains AI instead, but then I don't have Claude in the browser anymore.

Ther is a bunch of wrapping plugins where you can provide your own API key, like proxyAI or Supermaven. Look in the plugins marketplace.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by recursivedoubts »

Aurornis wrote: post #43
recursivedoubts wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I teach and absolutely must be able to disable AI for my student projects otherwise the students learn very little and are lead down false paths constantly

I guarantee your students are going to learn how to delete the .noai file

Of course. As I tell them: I am a good teacher and my job is to teach you how to program computers well. It is possible to cheat and get a good grade in this class. If I catch you, I will report you to the university. But I'm not going to work hard to catch people, that's not my job: my job is to teach. You should learn.

My concern isn't for students who are cheaters, there isn't much I can do about them. Rather it is for students who don't know any better and start having AI auto-completion thrown at them.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by lolinder »

mrighele wrote: post #18
mike_hearn wrote: post #13

It's pretty surprising that they're willing to charge a flat rate rather than by token, but great news for users. It's inevitable that you get annoyed at AI when it consumes tokens and generates a bad answer, or starts reading files that aren't fully relevant. The flat rate takes away that bad taste. The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face if Junie's usag…

The tokens are not unlimited though, Pro and Ultimate plan seems to differ essentially on the amount of tokens you get. [1] Anyway I think that for the average developer (i.e. not enterprise customers) this is easier to reason about, so I am fine with that. [1] https://www.jetbrains.com/ai-ides/buy/?section=personal&bill...

Were you able to figure out what constitutes a "credit"? I initially assumed they were following Cursor's (early) model of 1 prompt = 1 credit, with the tokens used to fulfill the prompt not costing anything. If that's how they're doing it that still leaves a bad taste when you waste a credit on something that doesn't work, but it does remove the need to care about how the tool gets there.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by Medicineguy »

esafak wrote: post #54

I got confused by the Go in the title; "But their Go IDE is called GoLand?" They should not have capitalized it. Anyway, has anyone compared Junie with competing products?

I understand the confusion as I was confused myself for the same reason. I also attributed that to my english language level.

But I think they just used title-case[1]

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case

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