why is ICE wasting millions of dollars arresting the wrong people but DOGE is cutting cancer research? Its time to abolish ICE.
You're thinking about this wrong. There's no place for logical questions here.
ICE Agents Realize They Arrested Wrong Teen, Say 'Take Him Anyway'
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#52If the facts of this case are true: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Kilmar_Abrego... then this is an unthinkable crime and has to be the red line for both sides of politics.
It doesn't have to be a red line for maga. In fact, for them, the cruelty is the whole point. They want the fear and simply don't care about laws.
Yes, this is exactly it. Eventually the cruelty and fear become the ends themselves rather than a means to an end.
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#53My wife is a naturalized citizen (and a brown one with a muslim name, at that)), and to be perfectly honest I'm no longer confident this admin won't start looking into denaturalizating people like her, for no reason except their ethnicity. It's clear they're taking a 'the Court has written their law. Now let them enforce it.' approach, and it's not clear anybody is going to stop them.
Are you planning on emigrating?
Just curious. I'm starting to worry it might be the only right option
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#54Wake up, American tech people (or anybody with remains of intelligence and humanity). Solve this issue from inside before the system implodes or sets the world even more on fire than it has done already.
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#55How much money is the USA paying El Salvador to run this human torture operation? What a disgrace.
I think its $6 Million.
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#56If the facts of this case are true: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Kilmar_Abrego... then this is an unthinkable crime and has to be the red line for both sides of politics.
It doesn't have to be a red line for maga. In fact, for them, the cruelty is the whole point. They want the fear and simply don't care about laws.
> don't care about laws
Look at the legal analysis, not the sensationalist story: this is IIRC preexisting legal machinery, now being used for a different purpose.
You dislike how it is used; I dislike that it exists. We are not the same.
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#57My wife is a naturalized citizen (and a brown one with a muslim name, at that)), and to be perfectly honest I'm no longer confident this admin won't start looking into denaturalizating people like her, for no reason except their ethnicity. It's clear they're taking a 'the Court has written their law. Now let them enforce it.' approach, and it's not clear anybody is going to stop them.
Are you planning on emigrating? Just curious. I'm starting to worry it might be the only right option
Not explicitly planning on it currently, but it is something that's in the back of my head. If denaturalizations do start happening, we would have a frank conversation about what to do. I don't know that we would stay in America. The tail risks would simply be too high.
I don't know, its frightening to think about. I don't think its LIKELY, yet. but i cant say its UNTHINKABLE anymore.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you planning on emigrating? Just curious. I'm starting to worry it might be the only right option
Not explicitly planning on it currently, but it is something that's in the back of my head. If denaturalizations do start happening, we would have a frank conversation about what to do. I don't know that we would stay in America. The tail risks would simply be too high. I don't know, its frightening to think about. I don't think its LIKELY, yet. but i cant say its UNTHINKABLE anymore.
"If denaturalizations do start happening" sounds much too late to start talking about it. Best to be prepared sooner than later with how quickly everything is regressing.
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Yes. Read the article. Edit: even if he wasn’t, there’s a proper process for deportations. Sending someone without due process to a supermax prison let alone a country they’re not even from isn’t it.
He was not. As per the article:
"In May 2023, Wilmer Gutiérrez left Venezuela with his son Merwil and nephew Luis, traveling through Colombia and the Darién Gap into Panama. The monthlong journey eventually brought them to Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, where they applied for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) through the CBP One app. While waiting for their immigration appointment, they took temporary jobs and slept near the border to keep their place in line."
The CBP One app [1] was a means to enable mass pseudo-legal migration by automatically granting 'humanitarian parole' on a massive scale to hundreds of thousands of people. The app and any pending appointments from it were cancelled January 20th, ending said parole. The app was later updated to help people looking to self deport.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you planning on emigrating? Just curious. I'm starting to worry it might be the only right option
Not explicitly planning on it currently, but it is something that's in the back of my head. If denaturalizations do start happening, we would have a frank conversation about what to do. I don't know that we would stay in America. The tail risks would simply be too high. I don't know, its frightening to think about. I don't think its LIKELY, yet. but i cant say its UNTHINKABLE anymore.
I agree. I really hope it doesn't get that bad, but there are still 3.5 years left...