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Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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I would suspect that if something is exclusively on GitHub, then it's not important. There are many important Free Software projects such as GNU and Linux, and they've always stayed away from GitHub.

I always get sad when I read articles like "new open source trend!" that are done by scanning github.

All the important stuff is not on github. The open github is mostly used by unfinished test projects.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

#53
post #37

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Also why does their website have to look so damn ugly? Is it so hard to design something inviting? I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head...

> Also why does their website have to look so damn ugly? Because it was made by coders. Old school coders. Backend coders. > I know that's not what really matters for a git server, but I just can't take such a project seriously. "Who knows what else they didn't really care about?" in the back of my head... Yes, a nice looking website, that epitome of project maturity and quality /s (as if there's a shortage of barely…

I had a CTO that would insist he had to pick every single dependency himself personally. And he mostly decided depending on how much he liked the CSS on the website.

That's how we got to use a payment provider that had absolutely no documentation and was located on the other side of the world, so queries to their support team would take 24h.

We never managed to actually get any money via that provider.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

#54
post #27

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> The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Famous last words

Especially when a huge portion of GitHub is not Git (wiki, discussions, issues, ci...)

at this point it feels like github is becoming a social network for developers

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #54
post #27

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Especially when a huge portion of GitHub is not Git (wiki, discussions, issues, ci...)

at this point it feels like github is becoming a social network for developers

Give it a few more years and we'll have LinkedIn-like developer feeds.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #40
post #31

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You mean Microsoft Recall? That never sent screenshots anywhere.

How do you know? It's closed source. And they're in an "AI" race where every competitor ignores IP law and privacy.

How it worked was well documented last year.

It was taking screenshots and storing them locally - the (justified) anger about it was that anyone with physical access to your machine (eg an abusive spouse) could see what you had been doing, and it was to be turned on by default.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

#57

The reason I don't use Github is Microsoft's hatred stance on open source. Anyone remember Microsoft calling Linux a "cancer"? Or Microsoft threatening open source developers for violating 200 patents? Or their official stand where they whould threaten and fear Linux devs? The secretly funded lawsuits against Linux? They even threatened lawsuits at companies for just using Linux. This company is rotten by the executi…

A lot of that was valid twenty years ago, and they certainly burned many bridges.

Now there's VSCode, TypeScript, WSL, Dapr and .NET, all open source.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

#58

The reason I don't use Github is Microsoft's hatred stance on open source. Anyone remember Microsoft calling Linux a "cancer"? Or Microsoft threatening open source developers for violating 200 patents? Or their official stand where they whould threaten and fear Linux devs? The secretly funded lawsuits against Linux? They even threatened lawsuits at companies for just using Linux. This company is rotten by the executi…

A lot of that was valid twenty years ago, and they certainly burned many bridges. Now there's VSCode, TypeScript, WSL, Dapr and .NET, all open source.

VSCode itself was a malicious move by Microsoft to capitalize on Atom's success, followed by the acquisition of Github and the beheading of Atom.

VSCode is "open source" with a walled garden of a marketplace. A quick look at how Microsoft is trying to kill competitors like Cursor (within the last week) by squeezing them out of the walled garden is... telling.

These moves by Microsoft are not made in the spirit of open source. It's in the spirit of EEE.

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #56
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know? It's closed source. And they're in an "AI" race where every competitor ignores IP law and privacy.

How it worked was well documented last year. It was taking screenshots and storing them locally - the (justified) anger about it was that anyone with physical access to your machine (eg an abusive spouse) could see what you had been doing, and it was to be turned on by default.

> was well documented

By trustable 3rd parties?

> last year

But this year it has MORE "AI" doesn't it?

Re: Important open source projects should not use GitHub (2020)

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post #59
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How it worked was well documented last year. It was taking screenshots and storing them locally - the (justified) anger about it was that anyone with physical access to your machine (eg an abusive spouse) could see what you had been doing, and it was to be turned on by default.

> was well documented By trustable 3rd parties? > last year But this year it has MORE "AI" doesn't it?

> By trustable 3rd parties?

Yes, that thing was hacked to pieces by privacy researchers.

I haven't been following updates on Recall since June last year: https://simonwillison.net/tags/recall/

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