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Re: Bored of It

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Post by desdenova »

latexr wrote: post #17

> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

> I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.

A person may be all of those things, but they still need to pay bills and eat. That requires a job, and jobs depend on the bourgeoise, that's none of those things.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by eimrine »

anthk wrote: post #3

Garbage in/ garbage out is what will happen without human curated sources verified by experts on their field.

Your point seems to contradict with Nupedia vs Wikipedia history, that was a competition where the old-fashioned encyclopedia lost to the bazaar-inspired approach.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by bufferoverflow »

Nobody asked for it???

Nobody wants it???

You're not paying attention.

I want it. I think it's our only chance at quickly solving huge complex problems like aging, cancer, Alzheimer's.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by TimorousBestie »

jsheard wrote: post #41
skrebbel wrote: post #31

Remember, being terminally online is a choice. There's nothing to be bored of you don't choose to be constantly confronted by it. The current thing is only the current thing if you choose to surround yourself by people who deeply care about the current thing.

Normally I would agree that you can just choose not to engage with the [current thing], but AI is so pervasive that you will be confronted by the consequences of this technology whether you like it or not. These annoying hype cycles don't usually raise the internets noise floor permanently, or DDoS random sites while trying to strip mine their data, or break core assumptions about being able to trust what you see and…

My software working group has spent much of the quarter discussing whether or not it’s made us more productive. They still can’t decide, but I bet we’ve racked up 1000 coder-hours debating it.

I don’t use it because our products have the potential to harm other people and I’m not personally comfortable assuming that risk. Nobody else seems particularly moved by that argument, however.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by daliusd »

eimrine wrote: post #48
amelius wrote: post #10

Maybe they should start a new community and call it the AI-mish people ...

It has been called refusing to use proprietary software. People who use FOSS. Users, not useds.

AI is very open source and very commercialized at the same time. I don't understand your comment.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by freetime2 »

api wrote: post #33
freetime2 wrote: post #28

> Rubbish in and rubbish out of it. Except it’s not rubbish out. The output is astoundingly good - something I would have considered science fiction a few years ago. It’s not perfect. But as a tool in certain contexts, it is already proving its worth. And it’s only going to get better. Sorry that you’re sick of it, but I think this tech is here to stay.

My thought after reading that article was “well, I agree with one thing… I sure am sick of the discourse around it.” I agree that it’s good and not going anywhere, but I also think it’s overhyped at the same time. Both can be true. The doomerism and hand wringing is a form of hype.

> I agree that it’s good and not going anywhere, but I also think it’s overhyped at the same time. Both can be true.

I think that to say it is overhyped says more about what you read and the company that you keep than it does about the actual technology. I don’t mean that as an insult or anything - clearly there is a lot of hype about AI on HN, which I also read.

But I would say that most people in my life actually don’t have enough experience with AI. Outside of work, I’m the only person I know using it every day. And it’s something that very rarely comes up in discussion.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by mapt »

latexr wrote: post #17

> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

On that specific quote -

I feel like this is offensive on more than one level. The waste of our best minds... sure. Fine. But - "to sell you ads."

Marketting has the dubious distinction of being one area of human endeavor where technological advances serve mostly to make your life worse, make your mind less focused, make your wallet more empty.

The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfect marketing campaign/tactic literally hypnotizes you into dropping all your money on an arbitrary good or service. It is isomorphic to somebody mugging you. What does it look like if we achieve 10% efficiency? 1%? How is this infringement on your agency and financial well-being a positive social good? What if we could achieve profitable returns even by flooding the zone at 0.001%? How many ads do you want to be subjected to per thing that somebody in your neighborhood buys?

Re: Bored of It

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Post by clovoak »

"Nobody asked for it, and nobody wants it."

Whenever I read this I just lose all credibility for the author. As if millions of DAU having their problems solved are invisible to them.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by [deleted] »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #54

Nobody asked for it??? Nobody wants it??? You're not paying attention. I want it. I think it's our only chance at quickly solving huge complex problems like aging, cancer, Alzheimer's.

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