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Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

#51

Even if Google's robotics technology (software and hardware) is leading edge does anyone think they'll actually be able to productize it? Seems similar to how they were the pre-product leaders in transformers and then fumbled any advantage they had to ChatGPT. It seems like something's missing from Google where they can't get from research to product effectively. Waymo perhaps a good counterexample if you think where…

Waymo?

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

#52

Even if Google's robotics technology (software and hardware) is leading edge does anyone think they'll actually be able to productize it? Seems similar to how they were the pre-product leaders in transformers and then fumbled any advantage they had to ChatGPT. It seems like something's missing from Google where they can't get from research to product effectively. Waymo perhaps a good counterexample if you think where…

Waymo?

Good point. It took a while to get going, but the growth rate is starting to look really incredible now.

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There has been not one significant person coming out of those institutions Of the IITs? Co-founders of Sun Microsystems, Flipkart, Ola Cabs, Infosys, Zoho, HCL

Look at the sheer number of institutions and people, and now compare it to any US institution (Maryland). Despite how much smaller the population would be, the accomplishments speak for themselves. I would take an engineer with a bs from any R1 university over a graduate with experience from those institutions any given day of the week. But of course, there will be exceptions. I was responding to a defense of Sundar…

> The current leadership of Google (especially Sundar) is mediocre and comes from a consulting background.

That was what you asserted. So the GP just simply pointed out that you were wrong. You were wrong because Sundai didn't come from a consulting background. A lot of people from consulting companies have engineering background.

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

#54

It's terrifying to think that robots like this will probably be used in the defense industry at some point. If the robot understands something as general as "put the erasers away", imagine "kill all enemies".

People are always talking about AI in terms of economic impacts (jobs, productivity, etc.), but military should be the first use-case they care/worry about.

They'll probably freak out once they finally realize the implications of cheap drones + smart AI + auto-aim guns.

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waymo?

Good point. It took a while to get going, but the growth rate is starting to look really incredible now.

The growth rate is still very far from incredible. And they've made terrible decisions on platforms, giving up developing their own in favor of the i-Pace which is discontinued, then hitching themselves to a Chinese EV manufacturer subject to 100% tariffs (which, fun fact, were imposed by Biden).

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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They can do that , yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Google Assistant)

Bring up dates and times if you want to wreak havoc on any AI. :D Developers around the world's most beloved topic, how to handle date and time correctly, is still a topic of great misunderstanding. AI and AI agents are no different from that. LLM seems to help a little, but only if you know what you are doing, as it usually needs to be the case. Some things won't change so fast; at one point or another, data must ma…

Do they fare better if given the task to sumarize a use calendars hostory first?

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bring up dates and times if you want to wreak havoc on any AI. :D Developers around the world's most beloved topic, how to handle date and time correctly, is still a topic of great misunderstanding. AI and AI agents are no different from that. LLM seems to help a little, but only if you know what you are doing, as it usually needs to be the case. Some things won't change so fast; at one point or another, data must ma…

But this feature was already implemented in normal google assistant

Supporting existing projects is the oilsand mining of the promotion world. Low, old buzzword content, little reward. Implenting new buzzwords, wirh streetcred rich frameworks , thats the fracking.

Efficiency ,capabilties or customer satisfaction are irrelevant .

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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post #21

They can do that , yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Google Assistant)

Phones today cannot even reliable handle things like "remind me to pick up tomatoes next time i am at a store"

google knows perfectly well, where I am and wants me to add 'infos' to locations and businesses the second I arrive (just got a notification today), but reminders like these are unavailable.

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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post #21

They can do that , yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Google Assistant)

And worked with Samsung Bixby. Gemini, even after getting Advanced, is just terrible for a phone AI. I need to set a lot of alarms and calendar events, I don't need to do crazy photoshop (which Gemini is admittedly good at).
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