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Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by tombert »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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There are parts of the Bible where a prostitute is mutilated, butchered, and shipped to her rapists [1], parts where a woman fantasizes about men with donkey dicks and horse cum [2], parts where a father is seduced by and impregnates his daughters [3], children being murdered for making fun of a bald guy [4], and many, many more things that I don't think would be appropriate for a small child.

It's fine if you believe this stuff, and maybe these are layered with beautiful metaphors and it's beautiful when you know the subtext, but I don't think it would be appropriate to read a lot of this to a young child. Maybe you don't agree, but I think it can hardly be surprising that people wouldn't want their kids to read it until they are at least a little older.

[1] Judges 19

[2] Ezekiel 23:20

[3] Genesis 19:30–38

[4] 2 Kings 2:23–25.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by V__ »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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Have you read the bible? Lots of stories are absolutely not child appropriate.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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Yes such a shame we can't scare children with violent ghost stories anymore so they don't become gay.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by themaninthedark »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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It was not that the kid was reading the bible that scared the parent but that they took a sudden deep(obsessive?) interest in something after only being exposed to it on Youtube.

I have kids and I too would be concerned if they suddenly took interest in a topic. Not that long ago two twelve year old girls murdered their friend because "Slenderman".

Religious topics can lead to radicalization and/or cults.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by dingnuts »

daemoens wrote: post #40
piokoch wrote: post #33

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Read the rest of his comment > Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via his short allowed time where he can browse by himself, i'm worried what else is coming his way through it.

it's completely unsurprising that a child raised with no spiritual grounding would be interested in a book that teaches how to live and attempts to answer the questions that rationalists and atheists have nothing satisfying to say about.

How does one live a good life? Every religion tries to answer that question. Has the GP sufficiently replaced religion with something else to help their child answer that question?

One life is too short and too permanent to figure it out from trial and error so we have an instinct for myth to help guide us. That's why religion evolved.

You can help your child navigate that problem and separate doctrine from the helpful parts, or try to shelter them from scary ideas. Good luck with the latter strategy, especially if you want them to have a relationship with you as adults.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by Modified3019 »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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We live in times where the bible is considered a serious yardstick for morality, rather than the fucked up Bronze Age mythology that it is.

Considering it’s god is a raging and abusive narcissist[0], and how often the religion is used as a tool to justify hatred, physical and psychological abuse, I would be just as concerned at someone actively trying to proselytize. Religion is entirely unnecessary for a moral upbringing.

I would likewise be just as concerned if 4chan’s /pol/ started to target my kids with their propaganda. There’s a strong difference between intellectual good faith exploration of politics and world events, and harmful radical indoctrination intent on controlling their actions and reactions.

As another poster said, at best it’s a good opportunity to sit down with your kids, and show them the tricks and traps being used against them, but they are too inexperienced to be let alone to be preyed upon with impunity.

[0] A wonderful resource outlining the parallels, which helped me escape from the abuse I grew up with: https://www.youtube.com/@TheraminTrees/videos

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by Minor49er »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #31
skydhash wrote: post #15

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Why not curate a video repository? I think novelty is actually overrated and even harmful for kid. Deeper exploration on familiar subject may be beneficial as that would let his/her imagination to take on the job of inventing new things.

I did this. I set up a plex server in my home that connects to a NAS which has the full runs of every PBS style kids show that I could find and found good reviews of. Along with classic movies. Just trying to recreate the media conditions of my youth, with modern content as well as long as it’s “pure”. I’m also putting me-vetted YouTube content like Kurzgesagt on it.

You might want to vet your video collection more closely. Kurzgesagt got into hot water a few years ago after it came out that they were being sponsored by large corporations to push messaging that used those sponsors' publications as primary sources. They're not as unpartial and objective as they lead people to believe

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by themaninthedark »

cwkoss wrote: post #49
piokoch wrote: post #33

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No single book has incited more violence throughout history

I don't know, there are books by an Austrian and a German both of which have sparked a large number of deaths.

More to the point though; when the violence is occurring the author's work is used as a justification. If not their work, someone else's would do.

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