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Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Most philosophy dept nowadays have fewer undergrads than profs. An entitled liberal arts prof from an elitist university leaving the US for Canada, will improve both nations.

“Entitled” how? Sounds like innuendo for “I don’t like him.”

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Some random dude is relocating. The internets - "The brain drain is beginning, were doomed"

Not the first, not just random, all things start with a few and then may grow

Random? Try well-known historian and published author.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Secularism/atheism is a religion too. It has dogmas on abortion, homosexuality, fornication, usury, adultery, education of children, and hatred towards other religions (as shown by you).

The dogmas, if you want to call them that, come from rational thought, not a magic man in the sky.

It may be a "woman in the sky". We don't know.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? The market will regulate the demand & supply of places and the universities have an incentive to grow and to attract students by quality. If its mormon-university and mormonism happens to be in big-demand, so then its a mormon university that gets subsidies. At least, its in europe mos…

> what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? From what I understand it usually works better to pay for results rather than effort.

You may have a point with it's better to pay for results. But that lead to an chicken-egg-problem. Without chicken no eggs and without eggs no chickens.

So, how to achieve good results, if they are needed upfront to get subsidies and subsidies are needed to offer opportunities to achieve results?

It's not always better to pay for results. Paying for effort would also allow the headcount and university size to be regulated by the market. If you are a university no one wants to adhere to, then you also would not get any subsidies and have an incentive to become better in whatever you teach, without questioning first, where to get the money from.

I see it as a try to remove people without money from education. That fits with all the wisdom trump is producing every single day. Stupid.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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One thing I think is interesting about the fascism label is - if you time traveled the US government leadership from 1945 to today, who would they align with more? How would they treat these issues? Or was the US fascist in 1923 when the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind that Indians aren’t white and therefore can’t be granted citizenship? That seems, like, massively more “fascist” than anyth…

> historically no one considers 1923 America to be fascist.

Many scholars consider that Nazism was greatly inspired by American racism. Calling 1923 America fascist would be anachronistic, but also American racist policies were less related to Italian fascism than to Nazi doctrines. But plenty of scholars make the connection. Here is an example: [0].

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-American-Model-United-States/...

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Religious institutions should only be supported by voluntary contributions from those who believe in its mission. No state should ever give money to a religious institution, for any reason, because no state should favor one religion over another. To do so leads to religious authoritarianism, which is a direct precursor to religious segregation and persecution. Money given to the state should only be used for purposes…

Secularism/atheism is a religion too. It has dogmas on abortion, homosexuality, fornication, usury, adultery, education of children, and hatred towards other religions (as shown by you).

I do not hate religion at all - but I do not like state-sponsored religion, for the reasons I mentioned. If a religion relies on the the state, then the state gets to decide the practices of that religion and who may practice that religion, if it's allowed at all.

Likewise, if a state relies on a religion for its legitimacy, then the religion chooses who is valid to serve in government and governs the practice of those outside it's congregation.

The church should be a refuge from the state, not necessarily in opposition, but in a protective sense. It should provide a way to live, but not be the only way to live. If needs be, then the state should be a refuge from the church.

As for these dogmas, if they exist, it's that they allow the things you speak of to exist and provide a framework for those things to be safely practiced. None of those things are crimes when practiced within a framework of law, but instead are the choices of free individuals and should always remain so. They are not religious functions, but secular ones. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; even Jesus was OK with that.

Your mistake is equating the belief they should exist with hatred - I they should be allowed to exist for all and any restrictions in their use or practice by an individual should be governed by that that individual's conscience.

Per my religion, God gave us Free Will. The State doesn't get to take that away.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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1923 Germany wasn't fascist either. 1933 Germany, for what it's worth, liked a lot of things about 1923 America. Nazi eugenics grew from American ideas.

1923 Germany not being fascist is irrelevant to my point. My point is that during the time period where USA was considered fascist-fighting heroes according to the mainstream account, they themselves had many views that were considered normal back then but strongly “fascist” today. I guess the definition of fascist must have changed?

Changed compared to when? Back in 1939 Nazism and Fascism were different doctrines, which were soon put in the same bag of "fascism" for the purpose of war propaganda from the allies. Bizarrely the equally insane Japanese racism wasn't called fascist.

Nowadays fascism has become synonymous with right extremists in popular culture, I guess because it's an easy way to discredit a political opponent.

I believe that scholars who study political science have a different and more consistent definition of fascism, though it too likely evolved to capture the essential characteristics of related ideologies.

A significant difference between Jim Crow's America and fascist regimes is the concentration of power into the hands of one man (or a small group). That means that separation of power (executive, judiciary, legislative) that existed through American history did not exist in Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany. Another one is nationalism. There are likely others.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Doesn't that feel a bit disingenuous? It sounds like you might be coming from a very privileged background and haven't been placed in a similar situation that is primarily outside of your control. It also seems to suggest that I haven't spent my years as a parent trying to do the best for my children (i.e., raising my income). Besides all that, it seems like you simply disagree with the fact that this is a problem at…

First, I was trying to give you suggestions that may help you in your personal situation. Secondly, I am confused as to what you think should be done. Because it appears that you do not like paying a lot of tax money but expect there to be affordable quality education available? I mean, if you want more educational options available in your area then presumably that means the government at some level (local, county,…

> I don't have children so I am not sure why I should have to pay any tax what-so-ever for your child to receive a poor education.

Because it’s a shared societal good, like government, roads, policing, defense, energy infrastructure, and many other things. An uneducated populace would burden everyone.

Beyond that, unless you went exclusively to private school, you also benefited from the system and it’s not unfair for you to now contribute.

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