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23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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Honestly it's always seemed completely insane to me that people signed up for these services. Possible Pros: You find out you are 20% Norwegian! Fun! Possible Cons: Grandma is going to prison for an unsolved crime. Assume a non-threatening position and comply with all orders of the new Department of Racial Purity. Also, that's not your real Dad.

I signed up with a fake name and a prepaid debit card. They’re going to have to work hard to get mine.

Not with any relatives by k-hops they won't.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soft_deletion

It's absurd to me how soft deletion took over the entire industry and 'DELETE FROM' became taboo.

Too many fat fingers, too many relations that were not suppose to break (or were supposed to be disjoint but weren't), too much regulatory uncertainty, both for deleting and keeping the data, etc etc

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soft_deletion

It's absurd to me how soft deletion took over the entire industry and 'DELETE FROM' became taboo.

Not really, soft deletion has saved many people's bacon.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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There are troubling privacy issues, but it was able to tell me: "Toe Length Ratio : Likely second toe longer". I didn't even have to look down! Maybe it was a bad idea. But, I figured if we enter a dystopian future, evil health care companies or governments could easily get my DNA if they want to and/or simply require that information to get care. When you get blood drawn, do you see what they do with it? Hopefully,…

This could actually be a plot point on a dystopian sci-fi movie (identifying people by weird metrics like toe size and such)

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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post #9

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Honestly it's always seemed completely insane to me that people signed up for these services. Possible Pros: You find out you are 20% Norwegian! Fun! Possible Cons: Grandma is going to prison for an unsolved crime. Assume a non-threatening position and comply with all orders of the new Department of Racial Purity. Also, that's not your real Dad.

I signed up with a fake name and a prepaid debit card. They’re going to have to work hard to get mine.

This combination of being aware enough to use two fake data points while giving away your whole DNA is making me chuckle.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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It's absurd to me how soft deletion took over the entire industry and 'DELETE FROM' became taboo.

Too many fat fingers, too many relations that were not suppose to break (or were supposed to be disjoint but weren't), too much regulatory uncertainty, both for deleting and keeping the data, etc etc

The regulatory aspect is one I get.

The problem is that it infected the mindset of almost every company. Those that worked at companies who needed it brought the mindset everywhere. And like many technologies, people who study what big companies do mimic it everywhere, even where it's not needed.

So your simple stupid SaaS company has some simple object that a user wants to delete that ends up living in a db somewhere... forever.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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I do wonder whether the data is actually deleted or they just do like every other large tech company and set a “deleted = true” flag that hides it from the user, since actually deleting it and all of its replicates across data centres, backup images, and tape storage is from what I’ve been told, virtually impossible even if the will was there.

It possible with crypto shredding. You store everything encrypted with one key by customer. When you want to delete you erase the key. The data becomes unusable everywhere (backups included). Then a job periodically garbage collects data without a key, but that's more for cost saving. Big companies do this but it requires some technical maturity. If you operate in Europe you have to implement proper data deletion. I…

You still have to backup those keys somewhere... and if you don't do it the same way as for the data then your backups are effectively worthless.
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