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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apwell23 »

> There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning.

Yet they chose to feature this white person from a white country.

This article reminds of beginning of ukraine war when US press was showing white ppl and saying "we need to stand with them because they are like us".

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ttyprintk »

Gigachad wrote: post #19
CaffeineLD50 wrote: post #5

I suspect they are under pressure to juke their stats and they could get a gold star for "deporting" her. Ergo "you aren't a criminal. Come with me. You're being deported."

This is what America did in the Middle East after 9/11. Just collect up some random people. Claim they are terrorists and send them to Guantanamo bay where they are tortured and raped for a few years for no reason other than to claim they are solving terrorism.

There was an interesting prelude: once the flight restrictions were lifted after 9/11, the FBI packed up 140-160 relatives of Osama Bin Laden living in USA and quietly flew them out of the country.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by elorm »

This whole debacle scares me. It’s almost impossible to figure out the official reason she was flagged by the first border officer.

She had a prior denial for a work visa. Then flew into San Diego to apply the second time and got it. Apparently, she should’ve applied via her consulate instead because of the prior denial ?

Can someone explain in non legal terms why this resulted in a visa revocation and detention?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by freehorse »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #33
freehorse wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sort of disagree. There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money. When you privatise these kind of social services, this is what happens. This is not due to a few officials on the ground that just happened by chance to be "incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you". As the article concludes, > The reality became clear: Ice detentio…

> There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money "due process" is what you are due - it is what is afforded to you by the 4th amendment and habeus corpus. Op is correct.

I was disagreeing that it is just a matter of some officials doing a bad job. And in any case it is not about who is right or wrong, OP is right in identifying that there is no due process, and I did not disagree with that.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apwell23 »

Euphorbium wrote: post #38
Gigachad wrote: post #13

Governments need to start putting out travel warnings on the US. It’s becoming an increasingly dangerous place to visit.

And remove visa free travel for americans.

would make european tourist spots so much clamer and nicer

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ssijak »

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

Objective is to earn as much money as possible without regard for people. Those detention centers and prisons are privately owned.

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Post by ookblah »

I don't know if it's just more media attention recently or what not, but I used to joke about not wanting to go to China because of these similar reasons. Strange feeling to recommend to friends visiting the US to now be just as careful. That story is honestly insane.
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