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Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

#52

Many discord servers, each focusing on different interests. The communities are small enough that you can have actual conversations without a lot of noise. I just wish these communities were on a less centralized and less closed platform. Reddit used to be great, but these days, it's mostly rage bait and state actors astroturfing all of the popular subreddits.

I joined several discords, some of significant size, but I just cannot understand how to start/join a conversation. I just see silence or some random Q&A that dies within a few rounds of back and forth. I really wanna do some goofy chatting and socialize online in real time, but I must be doing it wrong because it seems like nobody's there. I also tried IRC (went in for the first time in 20 years?!), same story there…

It depends on the server. The best discussions I've found are ones targeted at hobbies which have both a lot of new people looking to get started and some old timers who provide advice and guidance and answer questions.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if this is what they meant, but Reddit is just Facebook for younger people. The outrage is the same, the click bait, the like hunting and the general attention seeking. There's some good stuff, absolutely, but the same is true for Facebook. If you're not part of a sub-culture, and a narrow one at that, then Reddit content is pretty much your run of the mill click bait. Just like with Facebook, I think that t…

I don't know; reddit still has long-term, threaded discussions without character limit and a forum-like interface if you are using ~sane reddit~ sorry, I mean "old reddit". That is quite different from facebook, niche groups or not.

My theory is that they keep old.reddit.com around to generate training data for the AI companies.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What do you mean when you say Can I offer a perspective you can add to the interpretations? Apart from the staggeringly low "effort" you will find in it, and behaviours that in proper societies will have the offender's skull broken, it is (was?) a place you surely would visit were you for some reason interested in groups like "the budding party of those convinced of some personally held stance and visiting the prem…

I'm not sure what this word salad is trying to say. I've read it several times now, and I still don't get it. Your reference to "proper societies" and "broken skulls" is a bit worrysome.

No prob! I will rephrase - just be aware that a "salad" is not structured, and what you read above is quite the opposite. My difficulty is that it is not clear what may not be clear to you.

Maybe an instance? That website is divided in sections, each with its own population, and you will easily find many of the form "Those who believe that the moon should be rebuilt with cheese can come here to support each other in this blind persuasion, chanting hooligan choirs (intellectual arguments will be out of place here) against the rest (the "profligates", the "heretic" etc.), so the community can feel strong".

So, you will find hooligans vocally expressing their persuasions (not defending it - just shouting it), proposing world views that would instead require some intellectual defense (hence the mention of Popper), and interpreting phenomena according to the dogma of that world view, painting the world accordingly ("to the man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail").

I do not know what you could not understand, so I can only rephrase the other post.

> worrysome

Good, in general - people today are so relaxed! So relaxed they abuse their freedom. If you visited the site in question, you would find an abundance of participants that out of their "relaxation" will abuse you, protected by the distance of the web page. If the abusers went directly to some group of people in person, physically in front of the abused, what would follow would either be restrained violence and the Social effort, expressed in verbal and non verbal communication, to put the offender back in the framework of proper behaviour, or finally that actual violence that was once called "teaching a lesson".

Edit: addendum: the moderation you can find in that place is of the form "Sorry to hear that an apparent minor is taunting you, would you like us to hide its posts?". Normal, correct reply: "No, I want you to correct the brat and teach it manners, as duly in a supposed community".

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

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Private Slack, WhatsApp and Signal groups are the most valuable to me.

Ditto Signal. In my local city some Burning Man regulars created a giant Signal group for sharing parties and events. Nearly a thousand members in the same city who post about something to do any night of the week. It's lovely. To join you just need somebody within the group to vet you and you're in.

Group chats reign supreme once you are in good ones.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

#57
post #14

Honestly, reddit. There is loads of garbage but some subreddits are just gold, like the data engineering subreddit.

could you and some others list some of the subreddits worth visiting?

Are you looking for sharp wit or to learn things? Has a huge influence on which subreddits to recommend.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

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post #55
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what this word salad is trying to say. I've read it several times now, and I still don't get it. Your reference to "proper societies" and "broken skulls" is a bit worrysome.

No prob! I will rephrase - just be aware that a "salad" is not structured, and what you read above is quite the opposite. My difficulty is that it is not clear what may not be clear to you. Maybe an instance? That website is divided in sections, each with its own population, and you will easily find many of the form "Those who believe that the moon should be rebuilt with cheese can come here to support each other in…

That's a lot to write to just say that there is online disinhibition effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No prob! I will rephrase - just be aware that a "salad" is not structured, and what you read above is quite the opposite. My difficulty is that it is not clear what may not be clear to you. Maybe an instance? That website is divided in sections, each with its own population, and you will easily find many of the form "Those who believe that the moon should be rebuilt with cheese can come here to support each other in…

That's a lot to write to just say that there is online disinhibition effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect

Thank you! Owing to some contingent stressors, I currently can't get out of overly analytical language.

But note that the user asked for explanations in both posts, so a concise formula like "online disinhibition effect" probably leaves questions instead of answering them.

And in fact, it is not «just» disinhibition: it is the intent to promote "guts" as opposed to "brains".

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"The president has said that the moon moves the seas, what a belch, roar, roar, rise!" // "Actually it does." // "Down with the defender of the president!"

"The president has just saved a child falling from a skyscraper, pouring out love and the wrath of his enemies, should not we feel elated!" // "Are you sure that happened?" // "Down with the opposer of the president!"

That is a sample of what you may find there. If you were a humorist without ideas, maybe...

Re: Ask HN: Where do you browse and chat outside of here?

#60

I built https://hn-pm.me/ some time ago, it did not really catch on...

I know you put an explainer in there... but sorry, this looks like a phishing attack to get my HackerNews password.

But i don't even need your hn password. You create a completely new account on my page. To prove ownership of your account all you have to do is put a key into your public profile which i check via the public hn api. At no point i ask for your hn password.
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