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The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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I looked at the author’s Google map view of the 2 miles they couldn’t walk to school, and the enormous grassed area next to the road would have meant I’d be walking that quite happily in the UK.

Right. I walked home from school every day and it was about 4 miles through farm fields and along country roads with blind corners.

See here, and deer were hit regularly on the 4m road I walked... but even as a kid I recognised it was kind of dangerous, and I wouldn't want my own kids to do the same.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Well that headline sums it up. After 10 years of dealing with it and wondering "how the f did we get to this point", it's satisfying to hear it called what it is. A small win in our family was in my son's final year of elementary school when he finally decided to try walking home 1.5 miles; that Spring was a delight for him. He was properly decompressed and had logged a minimum amount of physical activity for good sl…

"he decided" is probably one of the issues here. back in the day it would have been "this is what your doing now kid"

You're right. We would have been mocked "It's a mile and a half, I'm not picking you up when you have two perfectly good legs."

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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I think this article misses the one big problem (as I understand it). It's that schools need to dismiss the kid to their parent. I have family in North Carolina and I understand that cars have the family number displayed, and someone with a radio communicates to the school staff "Car 315 is here", they then find that kid and dismiss them. Just do away with that. When the bell rings, send the kids outside and they wil…

> schools need to dismiss the kid to their parent Schools (EDIT: feel the) need to dismiss the kid to someone. That could be another parent, in the case of carpooling. It could be a bus driver. The root problem is parents chauffering their kids to and from school.

> Schools need to dismiss the kid to someone

"Back in my day" the bell went and we walked out the gate and went home.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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post #2

I looked at the author’s Google map view of the 2 miles they couldn’t walk to school, and the enormous grassed area next to the road would have meant I’d be walking that quite happily in the UK.

The US has a lot of 4ft+ hood height pick up trucks with drivers on their phone. Basically, all the cars are heavier, higher, and cause more damage. Although, that specific picture’s grassy area is sufficiently large that there is room to walk far away from the cars.

We used to have smaller pick up trucks, but they were eliminated by fuel efficiency rules that require larger trucks. :P

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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I looked at the author’s Google map view of the 2 miles they couldn’t walk to school, and the enormous grassed area next to the road would have meant I’d be walking that quite happily in the UK.

It does look pretty nice, although in the mud the kids might prefer to walk on the unlit pavement where the trucks probably drive really really fast.

Plenty of space to build a separated bike path for minuscule cost, though.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Surely behavior of children on a busses plays _some_ role in this decision. Not sure how they would even gather stats on this but busses in my youth were total zoos.

Further, schools near me won't allow many children to walk home even within a safe walking distance with parental consent for (and I quote) "liability reasons". Absurd.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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post #5

Well that headline sums it up. After 10 years of dealing with it and wondering "how the f did we get to this point", it's satisfying to hear it called what it is. A small win in our family was in my son's final year of elementary school when he finally decided to try walking home 1.5 miles; that Spring was a delight for him. He was properly decompressed and had logged a minimum amount of physical activity for good sl…

"he decided" is probably one of the issues here. back in the day it would have been "this is what your doing now kid"

There's a difference when everyone is walking home (so you often walk home with a few friends who live nearby) vs being alone walking home.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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The bar chart is pretty funny. "Over 3 miles" is the highest bucket? That's supposed to be far?

I went to school in a semi-rural school district, one of the largest in the state by area. I just checked Google Maps and the high school is 13 miles away, 16 minutes by car (much of it highway), and maybe a half hour by school bus if I remember correctly. It could be a bit tedious, but it wasn't a terrible commute by any means.

> Parents are not simply choosing to drive their children to school because it’s fun to sit in a long line. It is becoming more of a necessity because schools are more spread out than before, or at least families are living further from their schools.

Necessity? I don't see what's wrong with school buses. They're just about the only practical form of mass transit in rural areas. They work for all ages, in any weather where the school is open at all.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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My kids' school used to let parents into the yard during dropoff and pickup. It was wonderful: a time for the kids to play with their friends and the parents to mingle and catch up. Now we have the car dropoff/pickup line. I'm for "everyone park and walk your kid into school" or "let kids go home by themselves if it's safe to do so" [0]. The car pickup and dropoff is the absolute worst.

[0] Our current bike route from home to school isn't optimal -- too many busy streets where drivers routinely run reds. That's a rant for another day...

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Unfortunately we are one of those families. The bus service is completely unreasonable. They shopped it out to the lowest bidder and the stops are all in terrible spots on busy streets. It also takes longer to sit and wait in the cold with a 6 year old than it would be to just drive there and back.

> It also takes longer to sit and wait in the cold with a 6 year old than it would be to just drive there and back.

I don't know how your bus driver would handle it but even back in the 80s, some parents would drive their kids to the bus stop and let them wait in the car until the bus came. As they got older, like 5th or 6th grade, they would be taught to dress warm for the wait.

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