BOFH vibe from this. I have also had cases of lazy ChatGPT for code generation, although not so obnoxious. What should be next - a digital spurs to nudge them in the right direction.
Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
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Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#52It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. Not even just about coding, about any other knowledge.
Apparently from what I've read, universities are already starting to see this. More and more students are incapable of acquiring knowledge from books. Once they reach a point where the information they need cannot be found in ChatGPT or YouTube videos they're stuck.
I wonder if Google Gemini is trained on all the millions of books that were scanned and that Google were not able to be used for their original purposes?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Books
As other AI companies argue, copyright doesn't apply when training, it should give Google a huge advantage to be able to use all the worlds books they scanned.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#53It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. Not even just about coding, about any other knowledge.
> It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. I am from the generation whose only options on the table were RTFM and/or read the source code. Your blend of comment was also directed at the likes of Google and StackOverflow. Apparently SO is not a problem anymore, but chatbot…
The issues I see are that private chats are information blackholes whereas public stuff like SO can show up in a search and help more than just the original asker (can also be easily referenced / shared). Also the fact that these chatbots are wrong / make stuff up a lot.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#54Can we be sure that this screenshot is authentic?
No. We cannot be sure that an audio or a video is authentic, let alone a screenshot.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
My biggest worry about AI is that it will do all the basic stuff, so people will never have a chance to learn and move on to the more complex stuff. I think there's a name for this, but I can't find it right now. In the hands of a tenured expert though, AI should be a big step up.
Do you worry about calculators preventing people to master big number multiplication? That's an interesting question actually. When I was a kid, calculators were not as widespread and I could easily multiply 4-digit numbers in my brain. Nowadays I'd be happy to multiply 2-digit numbers without mistakes. But I carry my smartphone with me, so there's just no need to do so... So while learning basic stuff is definitely…
> actually mastering those skills may be wasted time?
this question is, i’m pretty sure it is safe to assume, the absolute bane of every maths teacher’s existence.
if i don’t learn and master the fundamentals, i cannot learn and master more advanced concepts.
which means no fluid dynamics for me when i get to university because “what’s the point of learning algebra, i’m never gonna use it in real life” (i mean, i flunked fluid dynamics but it was because i was out drinking all the time).
i still remember how to calculate compound interest. do i need to know how to calculate compound interest today? no. did i need to learn and master it as an application of accumulation functions? absolutely.
just because i don’t need to apply something i learned to master before doesn’t mean i didn’t need to learn and master it in order to learn and master something else later.
mastery is a cumulative process in my experience. skipping out on it with early stuff makes it much harder to master later stuff.
> Do you worry about calculators preventing people to master big number multiplication?
yes.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#56How to deal with technical debt in AI generated code ?
ask AI to fix it
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#57This is quite a lot of code to handle in 1 file. The recommendation is actually good in the past(month - feels like 1 year of planning) I've made similar mistakes with tens of projects - having files larger than 500-600 lines of code - Claude was removing some of the code and I didn't have coverage on some of them and the end result was missing functionality. Good thing that we can use .cursorrules so this is somethi…
I'm using Cursor & Claude/R1 on a file with 5000 loc, seems to cope OK
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#58It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. Not even just about coding, about any other knowledge.
Please elaborate on what you think the issues will be? Why read documentation when you can simply ask questions and get better contextualised answers faster? Whatever edge issues manifest they will be eclipsed by greater productivity.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. I am from the generation whose only options on the table were RTFM and/or read the source code. Your blend of comment was also directed at the likes of Google and StackOverflow. Apparently SO is not a problem anymore, but chatbot…
The issues I see are that private chats are information blackholes whereas public stuff like SO can show up in a search and help more than just the original asker (can also be easily referenced / shared). Also the fact that these chatbots are wrong / make stuff up a lot.
I had never thought about that - I guess the privacy cuts both ways.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#60It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. Not even just about coding, about any other knowledge.
> It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. I am from the generation whose only options on the table were RTFM and/or read the source code. Your blend of comment was also directed at the likes of Google and StackOverflow. Apparently SO is not a problem anymore, but chatbot…
Oh, heck. We didn’t need AI to do that. That’s been happening forever.
It’s not just bad optics; it’s destructive. It discourages folks from learning.
AI is just another tool. There’s folks that sneer at you if you use an IDE, a GUI, a WYSIWYG editor, or a symbolic debugger.
They aren’t always boomers, either. As a high school dropout, with a GED, I’ve been looking up noses, my entire life. Often, from folks much younger than me.
It’s really about basic human personal insecurity, and we all have that, to some degree. Getting around it, is a big part of growing up, so a lot of older folks are actually a lot less likely to pull that crap than you might think.