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Interesting. I'm not from the US or Canada, but are Canadians really going to "war" against the US? They're going to lose +400B in trade potentially. No markets are waiting for those products. Just "play ball" with Trump, spend more on border security, block any drugs from entering the country that might start with the letter "f" and be done with that.
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Canadian here, who is also not a Trump fan. It is true that Canada has extremely lax border controls and there are complex organized crime networks that exploit this inside of and through Canada. The US security establishment is aware of this, as is the Canadian security establishment. The 1% fentanyl headline is indeed widely reported, it’s also a red herring. The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not…
> The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not much is seen Wouldn't it be the US, on their side of the border, who is looking for what is coming into their country, not Canada looking at what is leaving their country? They seem to have a pretty good handle on how much is entering through the southern border.
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> The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not much is seen Wouldn't it be the US, on their side of the border, who is looking for what is coming into their country, not Canada looking at what is leaving their country? They seem to have a pretty good handle on how much is entering through the southern border.
I think the heart of the issue is inflow through Canadian ports, as well as complex money laundering and trafficking schemes between Canada, China and Mexico. You can check the article I posted above for more info. There’s also some info about this in the Whitehouse press release I linked below. So it’s not strictly a border crossing problem.
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I don't think there's a point in looking for a rationale. His mind is exceedingly addled and he's even less coherent than he was during his first term. Combined with delegating responsibility to a bunch of people high on various drugs constantly telling him to do X or Y or Z his policy is 'whoever talks to him first'.
This is fantasy. The guy does endless interviews and explains why he's doing everything he's doing, at length, and negotiates in public. You can hate it, but if he's addled then Biden didn't even count as alive for his entire term. The reason that he came out of the gate so hard is due to extensive planning, and he's the only person during your lifetime who was the president, had four years off to reflect on it, then…
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I don't think there's a point in looking for a rationale. His mind is exceedingly addled and he's even less coherent than he was during his first term. Combined with delegating responsibility to a bunch of people high on various drugs constantly telling him to do X or Y or Z his policy is 'whoever talks to him first'.
This is fantasy. The guy does endless interviews and explains why he's doing everything he's doing, at length, and negotiates in public. You can hate it, but if he's addled then Biden didn't even count as alive for his entire term. The reason that he came out of the gate so hard is due to extensive planning, and he's the only person during your lifetime who was the president, had four years off to reflect on it, then…
So answer the question of why he wanted to bash Canada in the first place given the points made by the person asking?
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> Economically, he's sincerely trying to keep the US from paying the piper for the trade deficit we've been running for 40 years. He obviously actually believes in this. But this is not what Trump stated. The fact sheet he published on March 3 ( https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-pr... ) doesn't mention anything about trade deficits; it says that the problem is cartel violence and fentanyl impo…
The most coherent explanation I've seen is that the only power the executive has to directly impose tariffs are from some "national security" law (intended for stuff like sanctions against war criminals), so even though he wants trade concessions, legally he has to dress it up as a national security issue. That said, he doesn't seem to care about any other limits on the executive, and I don't even know how this strat…
Interesting. I'm not from the US or Canada, but are Canadians really going to "war" against the US? They're going to lose +400B in trade potentially. No markets are waiting for those products. Just "play ball" with Trump, spend more on border security, block any drugs from entering the country that might start with the letter "f" and be done with that.
An interesting barometer of the tensions, is by looking at Canadian grocers website. All that I have seen, have "buy Canadian" and "produced in Canada" plastered onto most products. Even Walmart has a "made in Canada" tab.
I wouldn't read too much into this. I wouldn't read too much into this. A few years ago it was "black businesses", but I doubt anyone was actually basing their purchasing decisions on it. It's just businesses trying to ride the current thing. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21348990/google-black-own... https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-gave-big-companies-sm...
It's not just businesses. Literally half their radio content is about buy Canada, avoid the US, Trump is bad for Canada, etc. This content is produced by every group: political ads, government PSAs, advertisements, the talkshow hosts, people calling in...
My county is very dependent on Canadians driving down to buy American goods and we are getting hit hard. I'm not excited for the local economic effects of this trade war (or anything else about it).
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> The simple answer is Canada doesn’t really look, so not much is seen Wouldn't it be the US, on their side of the border, who is looking for what is coming into their country, not Canada looking at what is leaving their country? They seem to have a pretty good handle on how much is entering through the southern border.
I think the heart of the issue is inflow through Canadian ports, as well as complex money laundering and trafficking schemes between Canada, China and Mexico. You can check the article I posted above for more info. There’s also some info about this in the Whitehouse press release I linked below. So it’s not strictly a border crossing problem.
That said, I'll still definitely grant you the following, especially after researching the issue and seeing information from other outlets: Canada has a serious problem with Chinese money laundering. Fine, but so does the United States: https://www.propublica.org/article/china-cartels-xizhi-li-mo.... None of this feels like anything more than an after-the-fact, invented rationale for the tariffs.
Like the other poster said, the fact that so little fentanyl comes in through the US is not a "red herring" because Canada "isn't looking for it" - you don't go through Customs upon leaving a country, you go through it on entering. And again, even if your argument is that Canada is just supporting the drug trade through its money laundering operations, you could literally point to any country and come up with a host of things that happen within their borders that are somehow bad for the US. You could certainly do it in reverse (shit that the US does that's bad for other countries) 3x. None of it rises to even a teeny bit of the level needed to throwaway a deep, mutually beneficial relationship that has existed for many, many decades.