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Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by incangold »

Aurornis wrote: post #35

> “The only thing a return to the office has given me is an hour of traffic while driving and a loss in efficiency,” said the worker, who requested anonymity for fear of job reprisals. RTO in a nutshell. As someone who chose my living location based on where my family wants to live first and jobs second, this sudden turn to RTO mandates is infinitely depressing. Most of my work involves talking to people in different…

Same situation. Going to the office and opening a Zoom call with colleagues in India and a city hundreds of miles away. Madness.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by dartos »

Aurornis wrote: post #23
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

It may not be what people want now, but it is what people voted for.

People voted for tariff and massive day 1 changes and federal cuts.

People wanted a loud strong man president who makes deals.

These actions ARE what people (who voted) wanted… people just didn’t think about the outcome

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by palata »

philistine wrote: post #27
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

The is exactly a move the people in power in those troubled countries will use to maintain control over government. It used to be that the US government had pride in its own professionalism. The US is now acting like the countries it loves to destabilize.

> The US is now acting like the countries it loves to destabilize.

Ironically, it's destabilising itself on its own.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by dataangel »

selykg wrote: post #10
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

The disruption is (part of) the point. Degrading the ability of government employees to do their jobs leads to greater inefficiency and more failure, which can then be pointed at to validate assertions that government isn't efficient and produces bad outcomes.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

This what a huge chunk of HN wanted! HN was all aboard the Trump train for years and the mods admonished anyone being too critical of other users for it, it's when I wrote off most of the people here as morons.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by piva00 »

Aurornis wrote: post #23
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

It can't be only attributed to ignorance, you see many comments here on Hacker News defending it with vitriol I had never experienced on this forum even during Trump's 1st presidency.

Somehow Americans have really bought into it, the lies, the disinformation, the destruction. I cannot understand, the moving targets shift (CRT, immigration, DEI, cancel culture, wokeness, whatever is next) so it isn't about them whatsoever, they are just the distractions being fed to gather support, there's something else much deeper and darker broken in American society that became so obfuscated by these distractions to the point where I have absolutely no fucking idea why half of the country seems to hate everything that brought the USA to the position it had on the global stage.

Perhaps it's just hubris after a very long period of quasi-absolute power, seems like power corrupts not only individuals but whole nations.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by hobs »

SpaceL10n wrote: post #31
Havoc wrote: post #9

This must be the promised efficiency

It's part of the promised pain. Trump promised us some pain. He said it was necessary before things can get better.

Sounds like what an abuser would say when they want you to let them hit you more.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by NilMostChill »

explain wrote: post #45
Aurornis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

> The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50% Just under 50% of the population voted for President Trump, so it's a given that "already" the popularity is below 50%.

Voting population.

I'm not just being pedantic, it's an important distinction.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by hnthrow90348765 »

philistine wrote: post #27
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

The is exactly a move the people in power in those troubled countries will use to maintain control over government. It used to be that the US government had pride in its own professionalism. The US is now acting like the countries it loves to destabilize.

Well, Russia is destabilizing the US and winning which is why I think we're acting like that. And it seems all of our military and counterintelligence capabilities can't stop it. Too much offense, not enough defense, it seems.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by drcongo »

Aurornis wrote: post #35

> “The only thing a return to the office has given me is an hour of traffic while driving and a loss in efficiency,” said the worker, who requested anonymity for fear of job reprisals. RTO in a nutshell. As someone who chose my living location based on where my family wants to live first and jobs second, this sudden turn to RTO mandates is infinitely depressing. Most of my work involves talking to people in different…

Harder to sell Teslas to people who work from home.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by utf_8x »

trhway wrote: post #42

i do wonder how Musk is planning to get FAA approvals for SpaceX if the federal stuff is decreased. Is he going to wait many weeks, months, years like the others will be waiting or is he personally going to cut the line? Or may be getting rid of FAA permits at all? Back to the time of great unlimited aviation and rocketry innovation. I personally have a bunch of non-traditional designs i'd like to get airborne/launch…

You don't need FAA approval if you cancel the FAA...
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