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About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by Kye »

patates wrote: post #15

I couldn't find a good timeline of all the developments in the extension space. I started first installing extensions on Firefox with their super powerful but dangerous XUL system, then they watered it down and many extensions died, then Chrome took over the internet, then extensions could just block the ads and nothing more interesting, then suddenly for Chrome, they even can't do that? I remember Google also trying…

Chrome took over long before Firefox dumped XUL. It was sticking to XUL with all the performance issues that let Chrome take over. Losing all the extensibility of XUL, and it being too late to take a thoughtful approach to design something that maintained that extensibility with performance and security, helped solidify Chrome's lead. A lot of people didn't see a point in using Firefox without extensibility beyond what Chrome allowed.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by chippiewill »

deanc wrote: post #37
a1371 wrote: post #12

Right now uBlock Origin Lite is "featured" on Chrome web store and so far navigation has been ok in the "complete" mode. Funnily enough, it made me review the block lists of the extension and I realized that I could select more of them. Too early to jump to conclusions.

The main issue is going to be around the corner. As more and more people use CNAME cloaking to do server-side tracking using GTM (etc.), it will be a cat and mouse game to block it (and other networks). uBlock Lite cannot uncloak these CNAMES and you're going to see a pretty bad experience in due course.

On the positive side, those of us on Firefox are going to have a great time as companies switch from trying to workaround ublock, to trying to workaround ublock lite

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by kjrfghslkdjfl »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #47

Google is milking a dying cow. LLMs are much better in searching for information than advertisement-exposure optimized google. People are paying for LLMs, consumers are no longer a commodity. Internet will change, maybe creators will be paid for their content? But what will happen with advertisers?

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Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by Vinnl »

johnny22 wrote: post #28
trallnag wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Firefox would properly support PWAs. I know that there are workarounds like installing the PWAs in Chrome and setting up an extension that redirects links clicked in a PWA to be opened in Firefox, but it is a hassle.

i saw somebody mention they are going to do something about that soon, but I don't remember where i saw it.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/how-can-firefox-c...

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by postepowanieadm »

h4kor wrote: post #48
postepowanieadm wrote: post #47

Google is milking a dying cow. LLMs are much better in searching for information than advertisement-exposure optimized google. People are paying for LLMs, consumers are no longer a commodity. Internet will change, maybe creators will be paid for their content? But what will happen with advertisers?

IMO it's only a matter of time before LLMs will include ads. Current pricing isn't covering the costs of running LLMs and brands will pay a high price for being favored in responses.

But how such adverts would look like?

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by mort96 »

brylie wrote: post #43
cpach wrote: post #18

I tried uBlock Origin Lite for a very short time. Then I realized that in Lite, the user can’t add custom rules[0]. That’s when I had enough. So now I’m using Firefox instead, where I can use uBlock Origin. [0] See https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1in2ls4/ubloc...

They mention "other browsers" in addition to Firefox that will continue to support Manifest v2, but I can't find a list. Does anyone know off-hand the additional browser options for Manifest V2 and multiple-OS support?

I think some Chromium-based browsers like Brave have pledged that they'll keep v2 around for as long as it's practical? Though IMO, people who depend on Manifest v2 with Chromium forks are running on borrowed time, Chromium moves fast and I can't imagine that keeping the Manifest v2 code working will be very easy. Especially if Google takes advantage of the limited access extensions now have to the HTTP request flow to do major refactors in that area.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by Idesmi »

skinkestek wrote: post #49
forvelin wrote: post #17

regardless of what people complain of, firefox is still an awesome daily driver. nobody likes the direction the MF is taking the browser to but at least we can influence it, unlike google.

Best thing we can do to influence it is probably to use and fund forks such as LibreWolf, hoping that they are in a position to continue development once Google decides to tell the manager of Mozilla to finally destroy it completely. (Yes, that is a joke I hope, but if I compare what I think a puppet controlled by Google would do to destroy the Mozilla brand to what Mozillas CEO has been doing, I think there is a lot…

Librewolf merely applies a few patches on top of Firefox. It is in no position to maintain Firefox without Mozilla.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by homebrewer »

brylie wrote: post #43
cpach wrote: post #18

I tried uBlock Origin Lite for a very short time. Then I realized that in Lite, the user can’t add custom rules[0]. That’s when I had enough. So now I’m using Firefox instead, where I can use uBlock Origin. [0] See https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1in2ls4/ubloc...

They mention "other browsers" in addition to Firefox that will continue to support Manifest v2, but I can't find a list. Does anyone know off-hand the additional browser options for Manifest V2 and multiple-OS support?

Brave and Vivaldi will continue to support it for some time. Brave also does not really depend on MV2 as they have their own adblocker (which is about as effective as uBO, I believe).

edit: link to their adblocker: https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by KronisLV »

xattt wrote: post #40
cpach wrote: post #18

I tried uBlock Origin Lite for a very short time. Then I realized that in Lite, the user can’t add custom rules[0]. That’s when I had enough. So now I’m using Firefox instead, where I can use uBlock Origin. [0] See https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1in2ls4/ubloc...

It’s only a matter of time before the modern Phoebus cartel starts blocking Firefox.

> It’s only a matter of time before the modern Phoebus cartel starts blocking Firefox.

I feel like nobody will have to consciously do anything in particular, with the current way how things are going.

- Chromium is the modern IE and developers will primarily be on the hook for supporting it, Firefox support will be an afterthought so some sites will just be broken, moving more users over to Chromium.

- The Firefox marketshare is dwindling, it's likely that the users with proper ad blocking will eventually be a rounding error and therefore quite inconsequential. Especially if there are any more ad-related APIs pushed by Chrome that make users more profitable (e.g. Topics API).

- Even among tech enthusiasts, Mozilla in particular doesn't have very good reputation (e.g. how much they spend on actually improving the browser vs other initiatives) and I don't see the marketshare of Firefox skyrocketing, unless something big happens. New competitors like Ladybird are also niche, though it's a really cool project.

- If Apple ever moves over Safari to Chromium, like Edge did, then that effect will only be amplified.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by bmo-at »

skinkestek wrote: post #38
AndrewDavis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a shame that Orion is Mac and iOS only. I found this statement[1] in response to a request for it on other platforms > We are getting a lot of repeat questions about windows/linux/android version and sometimes it appears that users think that the team is choosing not to work on these platforms. The situation is quite different and simpler - we do not have the resources to hire a new team to do any of these plat…

I happen to be in the target audience: Orion user on Mac (but I think of it as a better Safari if anyone saw me writing I only use Safari and Firefox), but would like to have it available on my non Mac machines as well.

Same here for me, I will look into donating some of my time to this project
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