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I think computer is political in the way art is inherently political. Even if a piece of art isn’t explicitly about politics (an oil painting of a sunset), it’s still born of the lived experience and thoughts and emotions and politics of the artist.
Not everyone revolves their life around politics.
> meetups about "how to node.js apolitically" are sidelining people who want "how to node.js pro-socially." This statement did turn me off a bit. "how to node.js apolitically" would in practice ofc just be "how to node.js", which should be perfectly fine for a computer club, just as a pro-social computing course. Maybe someone wants to use their computing skills for social good, maybe they want to use them for biosci…
For me it was the part where the author claims that "computing is political", therefore computer clubs should be too. Computing is very much not political. It's a tool. Like any tool, it can be used for various ends, both political and apolitical. If you want a computer club, have a computer club. If you want a political club, have a political club. But I think forcing the two together weakens both pursuits.
A nuclear warhead is a tool. Like any tool, it can be used for various ends, both political and apolitical.
See how silly that sounds? Some tools have sufficient impact that they transform society, and that is inherently political.
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How do they make that work, you think? Could you say a bit more? One weirdo can severely mess up group dynamics, which is deadly for a small nascent club-type thing. What if you have someone join who's ferociously intelligent, and not outright evil but just inherently socially maladjusted? You just kick em out if they can't help themselves to continuous "well actually"s, even though they mean well? That in itself mig…
Overall, not arguing over the minutia of the rules probably is the best way to do this. I liked the way ggerganov just ended the anti-jt PR drama that started on llama.cpp by banning both participants. Sometimes if you just stop things, they go somewhere else and that's life.
The principles of “computer club” sound exactly like this with a socialist twist.
>computing is political, so let computer club be political too So you can have nazi computer club?
> computing is political, so let computer club be political too this is an instant turn off. this phrase means that the "computer club" is really a political club that lures people through computers. in my experiences those places are always driven by some kind of narcissistic psychopath that wants everybody to align to their view of the world. i'd stay away from those places. the risk outweighs the benefits.
I would quite happily volunteer some of my time to help interested kids with computer programming. I recently looked around and none of my local school (here in the UK) seem to have after school programming clubs. I am a bit put off by all the organizational and safe guarding issues that would come with starting something.
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How can this work in practice? "The sky is green". How do you answer this without breaking the first rule?
> A well-actually is when you correct someone about something that’s not relevant to the conversation or tangential to what they’re trying to say. So, as long as the conversation is about the colour of the sky, (or about green things) you can just answer it.