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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

I feel like these comments complaining about modern screen sizes don't consider that Bezels have shrunk a ton since.

Both SE 2020 and 2022 had a body size of 138.4mm x 67.3mm, which gives a diagonal of 153.9mm or 6.1 inches.

The new iPhone 16e has a body of 146.7mm x 71.5mm, with a diagonal of 163.2mm, or 6.4 inches. So only 5% bigger.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#52

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

People love biggest phone for some reason regardless of features.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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post #46
post #6

Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

I always hear people on hn asking for smaller screen. Apple actually made a small 12. It was the worst selling phone in the lineup.

Not only on HN, everywhere around me. It has to do with country trends I guess. In France, so many people want small phones. They just cannot buy them anymore, they're not produced.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#55

Apparently the camera is "2 in 1" that does 2x zoom with "optical quality" but they never actually say it's true optical zoom. I'm guessing that it's just digital zoom with some fancy processing. Does anyone know for sure?

They cropped it out from the center of the 48MP photo. It’s the same on 16 and 16 Pro.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#56

Apparently the camera is "2 in 1" that does 2x zoom with "optical quality" but they never actually say it's true optical zoom. I'm guessing that it's just digital zoom with some fancy processing. Does anyone know for sure?

It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. It's just that that crop is still of good resolution.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#57
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iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.

However, as the iPhone 12 and 13 mini demonstrated, the people who like small phones are a very vocal but extremely small minority (only 3% of US sales were the mini). They both sold so badly, it serves as a reality check for how small voices on the internet are compared to the market.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#58

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

Apple C1 modem versus a tried and true Qualcomm modem seems like a big internal difference.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess it's time to go get one of the flip phones...

I personally will never go back to flexible plastic screens. I used them enough in resistive touchscreens era.

I have a Razr. The touchscreen surface isn't glass (there's a TPU film on top for protection), but it's a very good experience and I rarely think about it not being glass.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#60

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

Apple has no problem with self cannibalization. See the iPod or the iPad with keyboard for example.
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