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A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

> What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? None? > What was the bidding process like? What bidding process? Remember when it's the "special WH employee" hiring his own company that's all fine and dandy > Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Every system can be improved, but I think the current issues with ATC in the US are not of a…

> Remember when it's the "special WH employee" hiring his own company that's all fine and dandy

Source that SpaceX was hired for this? The article makes no such claims and has no sources saying that.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#53

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

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Wait. So with a straight face, you're telling me that Musk - a non-elected billinaire - firing people who are investigating his companies, are totally fine?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#54

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

Bidding process? Learn from other nations? Problem statement? Goals? The problem statement is: I don't own this yet. And the goal is: I run everything now. It IS blatant corruption. A foreign national is using his private enterprises to take over government agencies and is backed by a traitor who only cares about his own money and power. If there ever was a more blatant episode of corruption it's what's going on in t…

I agree with everything else you’ve written, but Musk is an American citizen, since a couple of decades.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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The quote from Duffy indicates that the SpaceX team doesn't have any real knowledge about or experience with the FAA systems. Seems like they're being brought in just because they're a Musk company.

Yeah, his history is basically bringing in people he can trust because he can control them and then making them do what he wants to get the outcome he needs. It's a pattern across all of his companies and endeavors.

Compared to what, just rolling the dice? SpaceX isn't the only shop that can deliver against requirements.

Procurement bids should be transparent and avoid the illusion of conflict. This is the complete opposite of that. It's hard to take Musk's campaign against "fraud and waste" serious when he's awarding the contracts to himself.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#57

From another continent, genuinely curious about Trump voters on this: - Does anyone here at HN stand for this action? - If so, do you think there's a conflict of interest? How do stand on this possible conflict?

From polls it seems like Musk/Trump have the popular support...

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#58

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

Because software developers have never worked in an unfamiliar domain, which necessitated interviewing the subject matter experts to gain perspective on their problems and needs.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just feels like corruption, tbh. If a democrat did this, it would (rightly!) be seen as a front-page scandal on the scale of Teapot Dome if not worse.

...it's literally seen as a front-page scandal on HN and the linked source though.

On page 3 now.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#60
post #5

The quote from Duffy indicates that the SpaceX team doesn't have any real knowledge about or experience with the FAA systems. Seems like they're being brought in just because they're a Musk company.

The quote also doesn't indicate the SpaceX team is being "brought in to overhaul FAA systems", that seems like a big mistake if that tweet is all they are basing it on. The tweet says the FAA is tasked with overhauling their ATC system, and people from SpaceX are visiting to share ideas, and it seems to include an open invitation to others to do the same.

Political pettiness, and speculation about whether Musk got some special favor or advantage that would not be available to other companies aside, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to get cross-pollination and share ideas with other organizations and fields. SpaceX may not know much about ATC but they probably do know something about monitoring and control and collision avoidance in rockets and satellites.

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