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Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#51

> since then, i really started to notice that my youtube recommendations have been colonized to a very large degree by mixes made entirely out of AI generated music Turn off your YT watch history and search history. I've advocated for this on HN for years. Watching one or two AI slop videos won't ruin your recommendations, leaving the algorithm to rely on your likes to find you stuff you'd want to watch. Now if only…

While not the best solution, I use this userscript to disable shorts— https://github.com/Mr-Comand/youtube-shorts-remover-tampermo...

There's also the unhook youtube browser extension.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#52
post #48

Instead of "AI Music", writer should have just created a blocklist for music that sucks.

In the future "AI Music" will just be called "Music". Just like electronic music.

Or digital photos. Or digital illustration.

AI film isn't great right now, but people are still finding their legs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1ihq048/i_was_ai_l...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SgA6ymPuc

I find this medium is one of the best to showcase what people _can_ do with AI, because it requires manual integration of so many different techniques and inputs.

When more real artists start doing this (and fewer early adopters / hypesters), the future is going to be explosively indie. A Cambrian explosion that will cater to the long tail of super niche interests. I'm all for it. Less boxed Disney/Marvel/Star Wars spam, and more super edgy and innovative drama and fantasy.

Hollywood hasn't really given us much good sci-fi or fantasy. Now all of the world's creatives can start visually articulating their ideas.

A good set of analogs to predicatively compare this to might be the overwhelming number of amazing YouTube creators, or indie game designers. That's what will happen with "AI" art.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#53
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Gee let’s hope free will is real, otherwise this take gets really awkward.

I’m not worried about questions we can’t answer. I’m worried about businesses destroying artists.

Ok, your original comment seemed more concerned with the genesis of opinion and creativity, but that’s good to know too.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#54

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The AI does not possess those attributes. It’s behaving as told. It has no experience. It has no senses. It has no thoughts or ability to reason. It has no motivation.

Could we not - for the sake of argument here - surmise that, since these AIs need prompts, and usually a few rounds of refinement, and then a selection for uploading to (in this case) YouTube, that the -human- in charge of prompting/refinement/uploading has a point of view, an opinion, an aesthetic preference, emotions? After all, there are artists that collate "samples" from other artists and produce music from all…

The only way we can make that assumption is if the -human- makes it obvious. Tell me the people mass producing AI slop for YouTube/Spotify are approaching this with sincere intent.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Along similar lines, a blocklist for filtering AI crap out of image searches: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

These strike me as momentary throes from a technological/cultural realignment. Back in the day there were tons of people who were totally opposed to the rising genre of "electronic" music. Today you couldn't call electronic music "not music" without drawing the ire of lots of people. In the same vein, people opposed the internet, digital drawing tablets, digital cameras. AI is interesting because it can be use to "ju…

When doing an image search there are times you specifically don't want AI images, ever, period. If I search the name of a real artist I want to see their their works, not a diffusion models half-remembered knock-off of their style. If I'm looking for reference photos then I want reference photos, not synthesized images which resemble photos but may or may not reflect reality. If I'm looking for historical photos then no, a generated image vaguely drawing on the stereotypical vibes of that era isn't going to cut it.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#56

> since then, i really started to notice that my youtube recommendations have been colonized to a very large degree by mixes made entirely out of AI generated music Turn off your YT watch history and search history. I've advocated for this on HN for years. Watching one or two AI slop videos won't ruin your recommendations, leaving the algorithm to rely on your likes to find you stuff you'd want to watch. Now if only…

While not the best solution, I use this userscript to disable shorts— https://github.com/Mr-Comand/youtube-shorts-remover-tampermo...

Those are a cancer on YouTube, they don't offer any way to disable the shit. And on mobile it's even worse, there is a dedicated tab button you can't hide, even if you are a paying customer no way to avoid it.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

#57
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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These strike me as momentary throes from a technological/cultural realignment. Back in the day there were tons of people who were totally opposed to the rising genre of "electronic" music. Today you couldn't call electronic music "not music" without drawing the ire of lots of people. In the same vein, people opposed the internet, digital drawing tablets, digital cameras. AI is interesting because it can be use to "ju…

When doing an image search there are times you specifically don't want AI images, ever, period. If I search the name of a real artist I want to see their their works, not a diffusion models half-remembered knock-off of their style. If I'm looking for reference photos then I want reference photos, not synthesized images which resemble photos but may or may not reflect reality. If I'm looking for historical photos then…

This is a temporary problem that the market will solve for. Either the search companies will fix their algorithms, or curated websites and platforms will arise.

One way or another, this bug will be fixed in time.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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For many people, the human factor is the most important point. I'm not against AI music if it was as good as human music (it still very much is not for anything that's not extraordinarily generic and mainstream, or free form jazz), but many people see most arts as a conversation, not just consumption.

But the conversation part is something happening only in your side. Music, books, a good part of modern media seem to be done because the algorithms said that it will be sold more than someone having the intention of having a conversation with you. And then the AIs are making something that, from your point of view, are indistinguishable from whatever happened before. What makes it more or less real than what was alr…

I'm not against AI music. From my point of view, perception is everything, and it's all relative to one's point of view. I do understand, though, that for some people, the whole point is to gain a real understanding and connection to another real human's feelings and insight. I can't really fault somebody for considering art to be about more than the end result, and feeling that it's empty without the process.

Also, I do feel at my core that creation is superior to consumption, so even though I'm not bothered by AI output (even as a musician and an artist), I have a feeling of respect and admiration for those who create that I simply do not feel for people who type a request into a prompt. Effort and work for a goal are respectable.

The ends do not always justify the means, and even if the end result is identical, there is a greater implication on what it means to be an artist, and possibly many negative (and positive) externalities as a result of being able to get the same results with little effort. The art is identical, but the effect on humans is not necessarily. We are changed by the journey, both the artist and consumer. The actual effects of short circuiting the journey isn't something we can fully appreciate until we've had generations of humans who have lived with this. It might be a good thing, but it's not guaranteed that it won't be potentially more negative than positive in the long run. I'm optimistic, but I think it's foolish to not be cautious and skeptical about potential side effects.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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post #50
post #11

Along similar lines, a blocklist for filtering AI crap out of image searches: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

These strike me as momentary throes from a technological/cultural realignment. Back in the day there were tons of people who were totally opposed to the rising genre of "electronic" music. Today you couldn't call electronic music "not music" without drawing the ire of lots of people. In the same vein, people opposed the internet, digital drawing tablets, digital cameras. AI is interesting because it can be use to "ju…

Hell, even reading was decried as a way to wreck your memory - why remember when you could always open a book?

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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post #52
post #48

Instead of "AI Music", writer should have just created a blocklist for music that sucks.

In the future "AI Music" will just be called "Music". Just like electronic music. Or digital photos. Or digital illustration. AI film isn't great right now, but people are still finding their legs: https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1ihq048/i_was_ai_l... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SgA6ymPuc I find this medium is one of the best to showcase what people _can_ do with AI, because it requires manual integra…

"AI" art is 99.9% of the time ephemeral art, see it once and throw it away. Who's got the time to see my AI art shit when they could be generating their own? It's more of a personal exploration tool, closer to imagination than to publishing.
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