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Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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The phrase "clinical depression" distinguishes depression (in the clinical, officially-diagnosed sense) from depression (in the informal, no-more-cookies-angst sense). If you want to know more about the technical meaning of "depression," consult DSM.

But "clinical" has no meaning. It is not mentioned in DSM or in ICD.

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Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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Well, to me 'clinical' depression implies diagnosed by a doctor, yes. Sure, and it does vary a lot. So perhaps I meant to say severe vs. mild. People overstate these things to a degree. Like I said, sure they help, but it's scratching the surface IMHO. What's more important is to attack the depression itself, directly. And, though anecdotal, I've been through periods being severely depressed despite going to the gym…

In most cases CBT & exercise and better food is attacking the depression itself, directly. > The key thing, however, is for people to lose that attitude of 'go get a life doing things I think are healthy/fun and you'll be happy' because, basically, that's b.s. projection, Yes, I agree.

Yeah, I guess I'm saying CBT (+ related, I find SBT[1] very effective myself) >>> lifestyle improvements.

[1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema_therapy

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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I had a good friend from high school who was brilliant. We were academic rivals, but he definitely outworked everyone in the entire school. He got into Duke and graduated with a double major in engineering and economics. He got his law degree, and then his Master's in Law, and passed the bar exam in New York and I think CA. He was working in patent law in NYC for a few years, and then abruptly quit and moved back hom…

In the UK it is quite easy (and free obviously, NHS and all that) to get somebody seen by a mental health professional. I have suffered from several mental health problems over the past 3½ years and the only reason I am here today replying to your post is because of the fantastic support provided by the NHS (and my family of course). I feel so sad when I read stories like yours of friends and loved ones who need help…

For the edification of all the people in the USA regarding current events, this kind of a support system is what helps people who are having issues, and would likely have prevented the tragedies that happened in Aurora or Tucson.

Not to say that other solutions could contribute to a more whole solution, but fundamentally it's people with problems either becoming a danger to themselves and others. And we have no support system for this.

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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I also have clinical depression, and this has also been my experience. Something which also adds to the problems is that people so often condescend - 'you won't feel better unless you do X, Y or Z' and actually essentially accuse you of bringing it on yourself. And a lot of the problem is the guilt you feel about everything, so it's the worst possible thing you can do for a depressed person. I find having some projec…

"clinical" depression is meaningless. Literally, it has no meaning. Perhaps you mean "Diagnosed by a real doctor", as opposed to "self diagnosed from a check list"? But when we look at depression diagnosed by experts we see a variety of forms, and a variety of strengths. I agree that well meaning people sometimes offer really bad advice. But advice about developing a healthy lifestyle (being careful with caffeine, al…

'clinical depression' has a biological base and responds better to pharmaceutical intervention, and generally covers the diagnosable stuff in the DSM. 'regular' depression is just being sad because of life events - when your wife leaves you and your dog dies, that's when you get 'regular' depression.

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phrase "clinical depression" distinguishes depression (in the clinical, officially-diagnosed sense) from depression (in the informal, no-more-cookies-angst sense). If you want to know more about the technical meaning of "depression," consult DSM.

But "clinical" has no meaning. It is not mentioned in DSM or in ICD.

There are hundreds of types of cancer - does the DSM have a general entry called 'cancer'?

'Clinical depression' is a way of specifying something more problematic than simple sadness. When your sports team loses, you get depressed.

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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Get outside, enjoy the green grass, the birds in the trees. Talk to people you know. Talk to strangers! Drive to Wisconsin, and find out whatever it is they do there. Build a treehouse. Park on a parkway and drive on a driveway. Make a macaroni necklace. Visit a dairy. Climb a rock. Seek life. This is advice for someone who had a bad day. This is not advice for someone who is depressed! These suggestions assume that…

You sound like someone personally familiar with depression? If so, may I ask a question? I imagine it is true that people who are depressed may have a mental blockade to self-diagnose and independently coming to the conclusion that they may be suffering from depression. But is it also true that people who are depressed may also (always, sometimes) be resistant to the suggestion from others that they may be suffering…

But is it also true that people who are depressed may also (always, sometimes) be resistant to the suggestion from others that they may be suffering from depression?

Independently of the effects of a disorder, most people don't easily accept any kind of criticism exposing a weakness.

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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This story hits close to home for me. As one of the countless others like me on Hacker News who started out their educations and careers with so much promise, all I feel anymore is this tremendous sense of failure and missed opportunity. These days I think of programming the way I think of working out: intense bursts of focus on creativity for maybe 2-4 hours if I'm lucky, and then hours to days of melancholy because…

AFAIK, the software interface used with PATA (and SATA in legacy mode) dates backs to the WD1003 used in the original IBM PC/AT!

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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On the other words: All this software development shits are NOT for EARTH. They are for the price competition of capitalist system and can only impact prices in capitalist cities, nothing more than this. Don't put so much meaning and don't think you're becoming a better person when you commit to a repository.

That isn't true. Software is just a kind of tool. Some software is fart apps, some is enterprise CRM but a lot is really useful in tangible ways that have nothing directly to do with capitalism. I also disagree with the implication that there is something inherently unworthy with selling things on the free market. This is the way most people on earth get most of the things they need and in many cases it is the most e…

study economics, read history, learn the truth my friend.

Re: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have clinical depression, and this has also been my experience. Something which also adds to the problems is that people so often condescend - 'you won't feel better unless you do X, Y or Z' and actually essentially accuse you of bringing it on yourself. And a lot of the problem is the guilt you feel about everything, so it's the worst possible thing you can do for a depressed person. I find having some projec…

"clinical" depression is meaningless. Literally, it has no meaning. Perhaps you mean "Diagnosed by a real doctor", as opposed to "self diagnosed from a check list"? But when we look at depression diagnosed by experts we see a variety of forms, and a variety of strengths. I agree that well meaning people sometimes offer really bad advice. But advice about developing a healthy lifestyle (being careful with caffeine, al…

> "clinical" depression is meaningless. Literally, it has no meaning.

That would be incorrect, sir: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057

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