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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm looking forward to the better window placement snaps. I plan on buying an ultra-widescreen monitor the day that work upgrades us to Windows 11. Manually positioning windows for a monitor that size is frustrating in Windows 10, you pretty much have to disable all the snaps because they work against you snapping windows into undesired sizes if you come close to the edge of the screen. I hate all the advertising and…

Just ask them for Microsoft PowerToys, FancyZones is what you want.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

It doesn’t nag you incessantly to upgrade to Windows 11

My Windows 10 install doesn't do that either, although I have no idea why it gave up (AFAIK there's no reason why it wouldn't be compatible).

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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post #40

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm looking forward to the better window placement snaps. I plan on buying an ultra-widescreen monitor the day that work upgrades us to Windows 11. Manually positioning windows for a monitor that size is frustrating in Windows 10, you pretty much have to disable all the snaps because they work against you snapping windows into undesired sizes if you come close to the edge of the screen. I hate all the advertising and…

Microsoft solved it on Windows 10 already with their own extension called PowerToys, it adds a really powerful window management extension to windows and it's completely free(plus a tonne of other very useful utilities).

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzon...

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Why should we wait for SteamOS? I’m using Pop_OS! on my gaming machine and can play all new games with the Steam compatibility mode. Baldur’s Gate 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance II work perfectly fine. I was quite surprised that there are no problems at all and happy that I can go Windows free now

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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post #40

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm looking forward to the better window placement snaps. I plan on buying an ultra-widescreen monitor the day that work upgrades us to Windows 11. Manually positioning windows for a monitor that size is frustrating in Windows 10, you pretty much have to disable all the snaps because they work against you snapping windows into undesired sizes if you come close to the edge of the screen. I hate all the advertising and…

See if your work place will let you install PowerToys, which includes FancyZones. It’s a Microsoft power tool (not third party), so they might allow it, and it has much better window snapping.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm predominantly a Ubuntu / Mac user (roughly 60/40).

My Windows machine has seen an uptick in use over the last months for development purposes, but it's still stuck on Windows 10. I don't think I need or want to upgrade it.

Two questions:

- Do I need to upgrade it?

- How do I get comfortable with Windows shell? PowerShell doesn't do Unixisms. There are too many shells. Command Prompt / CMD, PowerShell, there's some utility that installed mingw64 terminal, and WSL is also a thing. Which one(s) should I use?

I'll expand on my shell question: The thing I'm struggling with now is that when I install utilities like git, cargo, etc., they seem to work for some shells but not others. They seem disconnected and not have the same access, visibility, and privileges. What can I read or do to get me over this hill? Which one(s) should I use? (I assume "CMD" is dead?)

I'm doing mostly Rust / TypeScript development on Windows, FWIW.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

When unplugging and plugging back in external monitors it moves windows back to the same monitors they were on before unplugging them. This is probably the most significant QoL feature.

The control centre generally feels better than Windows 10, except for switching sound outputs or getting to the volume mixer, which require too many clicks.

The settings app is a little more cohesive and has had some more control panel functionality transitioned into it.

Nothing they couldn’t have fixed in Windows 10, but it is overall better for me due to the above.

My new-ish work laptop runs Windows 11, but my personal desktop for gaming on a 6th gen Intel doesn’t meet official requirements. It has TPM 2 though, so once October arrives I reckon it’s better to run Windows 11 in a “technically” unsupported manner rather than stick with an OS which is no longer getting updates (and no, I will not switch to Linux as I’m not looking for another hobby).

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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> and lets see for how long Microsoft will keep tolerating that. Is that something we actually have to worry about? Wine has been around for more than 30 years in one form or another, and AFAIK Microsoft hasn't really taken any legal action against them. Are you saying that that has been the case because Wine has historically not been great, so Microsoft didn't perceive it as a threat?

Wine wasn't seen as a threat as SteamOS can be against Windows/XBox handhelds. Think of how Microsoft quickly killed the Linux based netbooks, when they really started paying attention, then the new tablets market did the rest.

That's fair, I guess I thought you meant suing out of existence.

It's tough to say. Annoying Linux people like me tend to have horse-blinders on towards the rest of the world (hence the constant meme of the "Year of the Linux Desktop"), so it's tough for me to speculate with any kind of objectivity.

That said, Steam Decks seem to be selling pretty well, and people don't seem to mind the SteamOS part of it. I think that there's a chance that Linux will be a permanent fixture for Valve now. I don't think they're going to overtake Microsoft, but I think that "Steam Deck" is a viable enough of a target platform for game studios to develop against that it's here to stay.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm looking forward to the better window placement snaps. I plan on buying an ultra-widescreen monitor the day that work upgrades us to Windows 11. Manually positioning windows for a monitor that size is frustrating in Windows 10, you pretty much have to disable all the snaps because they work against you snapping windows into undesired sizes if you come close to the edge of the screen. I hate all the advertising and…

The better Window snapping is great. Explorer can open folders in a new tab instead of a new window. The snipping tool shortcut (win+shift+s) automatically saves screenshots you take, instead of showing a notification you have to click. The snipping tool can also record videos, can do OCR and can take delayed screenshots

When I had the choice I still went back to Windows 10.

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