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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by Kye »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #26
Kye wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, because I'm not a journalist. I don't have the resources or connections to go and find this out. That's why we have professional journalists.

Wait, so you're not just asking for other articles around this, you're asking for a journalist to see your hacker news comment and provide you sources?

I am asking if any journalists, many of whom are active on social media and forums like this, with the resources and access have gotten independent confirmation and, perhaps, written about it for their publications, yes.

edit: I don't know why this is so vexing to sections of the YCombinatorati.

bonus edit after a reply since I'm rate limited for a while: IME people here are happy to share articles when people ask if there's more info. Hackers, at least a broad subset who loosely identify with the principles, love to share knowledge. Some even to the point of exfiltrating it! It's almost a defining characteristic.

That's why this is so vexing!

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #29

I say this as a UKian with a constitutional monarch as head of state: These actions suggest that today the United States seems to have a de facto King with far greater powers than even those held by George III at the time the founders decided that America did not need a King. They might not be called that, but they have the ability to exert behaviours akin to an English monarch not seen much since Henry VIII. Arguabl…

We're watching the checks and balances fail in real time. By the time the first court order comes through the DOGE boys are already doing something else somewhere else. The legal system can't create injunctions as fast as Trump can sign things. It's proving impossible for a legitimate system to keep up with the wanton pillaging.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by jjulius »

duxup wrote: post #15
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Vote when the time comes, and hoping the judiciary behaves independently. However, considering SCOTUS has largely decided POTUS is largely immune from most anything, I don't see why he can't just ignore the courts when the time comes...

What does that say for the rest of us? If the leader of the free world has decided laws don't matter, then as far as I'm concerned that applies to the rest of us, rendering it "legal" to remove him via whatever means we as polite society choose fit.

At least, my hope is that they don't push the limits with ignoring laws because they're afraid that would happen...

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by diggan »

throw_pm23 wrote: post #25
martin_a wrote: post #5

As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

As another European it amuses me that Europe cannot give up this smug attitude and keeps looking at the US in such a condescending way. Meanwhile Europe has been in freefall for a decade and nobody here seems to notice.

> Meanwhile Europe has been in freefall for a decade and nobody here seems to notice.

We all have different values that matter. Europeans (for better or worse) tend to prefer stability, probably because of past experiences, over oligarchy and free capitalism, while the US is almost the exact opposite.

So both parties look at the other and see "freefall decline for decades", both being smug about the other being worse, while we in reality care about different things.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by ok123456 »

megamike wrote: post #3

here is doge https://www.doge.gov/

Where are all the $500 hammers and toilet seats?

Some of the items on there may be things he doesn't like personally, but things like $1.4M to contract out the operation of the Department of Education's mailroom are everyday operating expenses.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by throw_pm23 »

croes wrote: post #35
throw_pm23 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another European it amuses me that Europe cannot give up this smug attitude and keeps looking at the US in such a condescending way. Meanwhile Europe has been in freefall for a decade and nobody here seems to notice.

Compared to the US the EU falls much slower

You must be kidding, the last decade is about Europe totally shooting themselves in the foot and giving up leadership in almost every field. US and China have been the big winners here.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by luxuryballs »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #26
Kye wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, because I'm not a journalist. I don't have the resources or connections to go and find this out. That's why we have professional journalists.

Wait, so you're not just asking for other articles around this, you're asking for a journalist to see your hacker news comment and provide you sources?

hey it doesn’t hurt to ask

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by thereddaikon »

mjburgess wrote: post #20

The security and intelligence apparatus made bet big that they could prevent a second trump election, after quite successfully destabilising the first -- they failed. And now the very system of unaccountable executive power which has been built up, is now being used against the executive itself. This makes me increasingly concerned for a similar turn of events in the UK (ie., given the many actions of the UK state to…

The difference in the UK is, there is no recourse. It's actually why America exists as a state to begin with. They have parliamentary supremacy and no enshrined checks and balances against parliament. Nor do they have a formal constitution. And the populace is disarmed. A sufficiently united parliament can in theory do what it wants. The only practical risk they have is a coordinated coup by the military.

The US system, while far from perfect, does have enshrined checks and balances. A formal constitution that limits the powers of branches. And an armed populace with a history of protest and unrest when things don't go their way.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by dannyr »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

> Is there anything we can do? Keep durable notes and share them with your electeds. Particularly at the state level. These kids won’t be prosecuted immediately, possibly never federally. But their actions will need to be systematically undone at the federal level and individually prosecuted at the state and/or local levels. This is going to be a massive bureaucratic and legal undertaking, and we’ll need record prese…

How will local/state prosecute it?

The crimes are on the federal level and pretty sure they'll receive pardons.

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