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A Year of Telepathy

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by marcus_holmes »

bloopernova wrote: post #17
walrus01 wrote: post #4

I am extremely unlikely to ever allow anything even vaguely related to Elon Musk to implant something in my brain, or even to wear as completely noninvasive "through the skin" helmet or headband-like sensing device. Nevermind something with him as a founder.

I'm reminded of The Diamond Age novel, where a character hears about someone who had an implant which was hacked. If I recall correctly, the hack caused the implant to display an advertisement in a different language at the edge of their vision. That seems pretty benign compared to what a neural implant could be made to do to someone.

> That seems pretty benign compared to what a neural implant could be made to do to someone.

Black Mirror: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Against_Fire

just as an example

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by sussmannbaka »

jdoe1337halo wrote: post #5

As much as I hate Musk, this brings a tear to my eyes seeing these disabled people regain autonomy and feel like a person again.

The same disabled people whose hard earned rights are on the chopping block right now in the name of anti wokeness? I’ll say, taking away their ability to participate in society first, then selling it back to the richest of them is an ingenious business approach.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by kfajdsl »

walrus01 wrote: post #11
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article shows a video of Noland, paralyzed from the shoulders down, playing Polytopia. It's great to be fully able-bodied and mock Elon Musk, but for someone to go from using a mouth stylus to playing Polytopia via telepathy is very cool and should be celebrated.

There is more than one organization/company in the world working on human-computer assistive interfaces for the paralyzed. For instance: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230824/Brain-computer-in... https://news.brown.edu/articles/2012/05/braingate2 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/STROKEAHA.123.037719 If you google "BCI brain computer interface paralyzed" you will find a wealth of researchers and organizati…

Sure, but have any made as much progress as Neuralink? Not a rhetorical, genuinely asking as someone who doesn't know much about this field. Though, even if others have, isn't this kind of technological achievement something to be lauded regardless of who owns the company that did it?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by llm_trw »

rezmason wrote: post #20
jdoe1337halo wrote: post #5

As much as I hate Musk, this brings a tear to my eyes seeing these disabled people regain autonomy and feel like a person again.

As much as I like regaining autonomy, we should hold back those tears until a patient's implant outlasts a product cycle. I can't find the article to link to, but there's an ongoing issue with tech companies producing assistive devices or prosthetics and obsoleting them when the company pivots, gets bought or goes under. Corporate cyborg parts are an already-predicted nightmare, already taking place, unfolding in slo…

The simple solution is that all such devices must be submitted to a central government database and all blue prints, source code etc. will be released into the public domain is the company no longer supports the device or closes down.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by zensavona »

discordance wrote: post #56

Between 2018 and 2022 "the company has tested on and killed at least 1,500 animals — over 280 sheep, pigs, and monkeys, as well as mice and rats." [0] 0: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/12/11/23500157/neura...

Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs, sheep and other intelligent animals every day, who likely lived in just as bad conditions if not worse their whole lives leading up to them becoming food.

I also eat meat, it just seems a bit ironic to me.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Ajedi32 »

murderingmurloc wrote: post #47

Lex Fridman's interview with Noland and the doctors is a marathon 8.5 hours, but I highly recommend it for a deep dive into the process and results.[1] [1] https://youtu.be/Kbk9BiPhm7o?si=g-MqcUcmS9sZhVdc

The interview with Noland at 6:48:59 was particularly interesting to me. Lots of details about what Neuralink is actually like to use in practice.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by jedimastert »

ivraatiems wrote: post #6
walrus01 wrote: post #4

I am extremely unlikely to ever allow anything even vaguely related to Elon Musk to implant something in my brain, or even to wear as completely noninvasive "through the skin" helmet or headband-like sensing device. Nevermind something with him as a founder.

If it was that or be paralyzed for the rest of your life, would you at least consider it? I don't like Musk and I find Neuralink spooky in terms of their overall goals, but it's hard to deny how much this invention helps people.

Why should we believe that he is not just straight up a lying or hiding some kind of fatal flaw? He is intentionally and systematically dismantling any regulatory or enforcement bodies that would hold him accountable or investigate his claims
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