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The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

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Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#51

Car manufacturers, please hire this guy to build your interfaces. He gets it. Touch screens must not be used for controls you are going to frequently operate while driving the car, it's maximum unsafe.

I'm pretty sure car manufacturers "get it" too, but the marketing team/parts count person has a conflicting agenda.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#52
As I get older the one thing these designer overlook is aging eyesight. My Honda has decent controls but the small display (like on these knobs) is very difficult to see sitting still. At night, while driving - it's impossible. The icons are tiny. Given the size of the current screens in cars - that's a lot of real estate for knobs. Use it.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#54

One overlooked feature of physical controls is that they also give interiors an identity and experience. Growing up obsessed with cars, I loved seeing how different brands would lay out the cabin. Volvos from the 2000s used a rather large diagram of a seated person to select the HVAC vent for example. Also, in my brain, a 3000+ pound object just dang requires some stuff to physically press, push, and hear click! A co…

I get what you're saying, but I totally disagree with it. It reminds me of mid-2000s Nokia, where each year they completely redesigned their phones simply to change them. It turned out what people wanted was a brick with a few common buttons, a nice screen and a standard GUI.

The main problem stems from the fact that car manufacturers will always choose novel designs over usability. They change components not to improve functionality, but simply for differentiation. As you pointed out, even if a control is well designed like Volvo's HVAC, it's phased out during the next refresh.

A newer problem is that every single car maker is beyond incompetent when it comes to software and UX. It's not part of their culture and expertise. So in addition to bad or missing buttons, even the screens are a nightmare.

This is an entrenched idea in the automotive industry, so it probably won't change, but it's something that really needs to stop in my opinion.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#55
My favorite car control system is the BMW iDrive rotary dial.

Touch screens are fine for given much more fine-grained access to controls. But they should be limited to controls that you _don't need to set while driving_. It's absurd that it takes 3 taps on a screen -- diverting my attention to the screen -- on my Tesla to turn on defogging (a common event here!) while I can do it with a one touch (now muscle-memorized) on my Subaru.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#56

Standardizing voice control in cars will go a long way until vendors decide to standardize physical controls or car OS. I should be able to get in any car and say "Set heat to X", "Defrost Windows" etc.

Does that work with kids talking in the backseat, the radio playing, GPS reading directions out loud, all at the same time?

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#57

Standardizing voice control in cars will go a long way until vendors decide to standardize physical controls or car OS. I should be able to get in any car and say "Set heat to X", "Defrost Windows" etc.

You should! Choice is great. I also should not have to talk to my car, I hate doing so.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

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I applaud the author for putting thought into how to design digital controls, in contrast to the "just put whatever garbage on a touch screen" strategy most carmakers do today. However, I still question the benefit of this complex, modal control (you have to press a single knob to "cycle between" multiple modes). My ancient, 2016 car features three knobs. This luxury allows me to, without looking, adjust any of three…

I find the thermostat mode only works on overcast days or at night as the sun contributes so much feeling of warmth when driving (in California) that the heating and cooling thermostat doesn't work well.

Re: The subtle art of designing physical controls for cars

#60

Touch screens are such a lazy, shitty, dangerous way to implement 90% of the functions they’re currently used for. Good to see that at least one person is working on this problem.

hard agree though I think most people don’t realize that you don’t need to use a touchscreen at all if you are willing to talk to your car. I yell a lot in the car trying to turn shit on on the touchscreen but luckily my 11-year is almost always in the car with me with the words of wisdom “just ask the car to do it” :)
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