So that’s how you create efficiency I guess: invest big in the seducing speech showing all the shiny gadgets and disregard all these stupid cost-centers such as customer care.
To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
8% seems like a lot. Car usually stays plugged in at home so I haven't seen it drain. I wonder if it's having trouble since the cameras aren't working, and constantly trying to detect objects or something?
I'm ready to provide witness statement in front of court about the 8% per day battery loss from sentry mode on a 2022 M3P. It's not even on a busy street, just a shitty software. Not sure why you want to argue about that. Edit: Sorry maybe this sounded a bit too rough, but unplug your car and check it yourself. It's like someone is siphoning gasoline from your vehicle every single day.
75kWh * 8% = 6kWh, 6kWh/24h = 250W. Maybe thermal management can't go low enough.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#53Checkout the new Renault 5, or "R5" review. It's a legendary French car revisited.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#54"Tesla acknowledges all faults in the vehicle (except for battery losses, a fact on which it has not yet formally commented). The company refuses to accept a return of the vehicle without penalty, even though the problems were reported immediately. The only solution they offer is to make me wait 3 months for a miraculous replacement part. Ignored and without any type of compensation, I live attached to a car that needs a full recharge every 12 days to not die. For my own safety, and that of other drivers, I have stopped driving the vehicle.
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this is how the lobotomized/neutered people react... wake up people and get back your rights
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#55Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.
Is it not the case that any tariff would apply to US made tesla's where the majority of the global stock is made in China, so wouldnt necessarily be affected?
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#56If I were you I'd insist on getting the car updated before anything. When you say the update gets stuck its actually not stuck but unpacking the huge firmware archive. You need to give it some time and preferablly keep it connected to a wifi so that after it unpacks part 1 it continues with downloading the rest of the parts.
We arrived in the nightmare when before using washing machine or a car you have to download software updates, restart it couple times.
I am mostly tech enthusiast but as a proper adult I want to scream "fu* off I just want to use that damn thing I want to play with my child and not watch another progress bar".
Also I am fully convinced that if you don't look at the progress bar something will ALWAYS break during the update so you never can just leave it to update on its own, when I look at progress bar it always works. But that's just me :)
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#57Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.
And the counter tariffs would kill Tesla‘s business everywhere else. I doubt Tesla can survive with US sales only.
No need for counter tariffs, non-US customers seem to be unwilling to buy them at this point https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea311....
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#58Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.
I don't even understand how having a business magnate and CEO of multiple USA companies can get a job in their government without being obligated to resign from their CEO mandates and without it just being plainly illegal. At least when they were corrupting people they at least pretended they were in the clear. Yet again, with two Trump presidencies, I don't understand a lot about anything anymore.
Were government officials ever obligated? Or did they do so due to personal ethics? I mean, Trump and Melania have 2 meme coins. The POTUS is directly benefitting from his position and fleecing Americans.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#59The safest bet in EVs is to buy one from the Korean manufacturers - they have the tech figured out (and have had it for a few years), they make everything from 'car but electric' to 'Jetsons spaceship', they're reasonably priced, they have cheap and abundant parts, have mechanics who know how to work on them, and they don't have an 'X' factor CEO.
I like the concept of this, but they just don’t feel to be “nice” places to be in like some of the European marques. The Volvos are about the most comfortable “normal” cars I’ve been in, the Kia’s / Hyundais/ MGs / Toyotas feel like sitting on badly covered sofas on a wishy washy suspension platform, without enough sound deadening.
Those are completely different marks, from completely different countries, and completely different aims and feel.
And as someone who drove multiple cars, from multiple East Asian and European marks, I suggest you try drive newer cars, because your opinions don’t match 2024-2025 MY cars from those brands (except for maybe MG, and Toyota, but both aren’t designed or sold for the driving experience. Toyota leaves it for their Lexus brand, and Chinese marks don’t even try to compete on that yet).
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#60Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.