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ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Also consider Nebula: https://github.com/slackhq/nebula ZeroTier does not use an OSI approved open-source license. It is under a freedom-restricting "Business Source License". Nebula is MIT licensed. Nebula is much simpler and in most cases faster than ZeroTier.

Last time I checked it did not support IPv6, and the issue is still open today https://github.com/slackhq/nebula/issues/6

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Also consider Nebula: https://github.com/slackhq/nebula ZeroTier does not use an OSI approved open-source license. It is under a freedom-restricting "Business Source License". Nebula is MIT licensed. Nebula is much simpler and in most cases faster than ZeroTier.

Is nebula actually good to use now?

Do they route announcements over the network? Can I just setup two machines and expect them to just work by finding each other?

Does it support name resolution?

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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How does it with the darlene of HN, Tailscale?! Tailscale has magic DNS. Can you use a custom domain and DNS entries in any of these mesh VPNs?

ZeroTier charges by device. Tailscale charges by user.

ZeroTier is a lot cheaper if you only need to connect a single device for each employee. It gets a lot more expensive if you have a lot of devices.

Tailscale is the opposite. Cheaper if you have a lot of devices, but if each employee only has a single laptop which needs to be connected, then it's a lot more expensive.

Tailscale's documentation is way better and walks you through it like a beginner. ZeroTier's documentation assumes you are already knowledgeable about networking.

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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post #45

How does it with the darlene of HN, Tailscale?! Tailscale has magic DNS. Can you use a custom domain and DNS entries in any of these mesh VPNs?

I think the ZeroTier free tier is much more generous. I also like the client app, which lets you be connected to more than one network without switching. The API is also nice... I've hooked it up to an Ansible play, and it works well.

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Very nice and detailed guides. The guide for Shellys [0] is highly appreciated. I always thought about touching those, but all the guides I've found required knowledge I didn't have. I guess it's a precaution because one can cause real damage doing this wrong, but I feel now, I could do it. Dzieki. [0] https://blog.tomaszdunia.pl/shelly-smart-oswietlenie-eng/

Do you have any feedback regarding lag? I like the potential of Shelly products, but every single light I bought from them has a 2-second lag, as the devices seem to want to light up only AFTER being connected to the WiFi.

> want to light up only AFTER being connected to the WiFi

Do you isolate them at the switch? If you do, then it's less likely "connected to WiFi" and more likely that's the time to boot up the firmware.

If you don't, then they should always be up and connected to the wifi.

I've used Shelly lights with no issues, even pressing the button on a Zigbee switch to send a signal to Home Assistant who would in turn tell the Shelly to switch on was always instant.

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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post #13

Very nice and detailed guides. The guide for Shellys [0] is highly appreciated. I always thought about touching those, but all the guides I've found required knowledge I didn't have. I guess it's a precaution because one can cause real damage doing this wrong, but I feel now, I could do it. Dzieki. [0] https://blog.tomaszdunia.pl/shelly-smart-oswietlenie-eng/

It’s really nice to here that you like my guides I have 0 money from making them but a lot of dopamine coming from such comments!

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Nebula compare to Wireguard?

They are not directly comparable. Nebula is a mesh VPN. Wireguard can be used as a building block for a mesh VPN (as it is in Tailscale), but it does not have that function organically. I have tried Tailscale / Headscale and did not find the overhead worth it. Both can saturate a 10Gbps link and that's all I need right now. Nebula's much simpler to administer. The configuration's spelled out in the client configs and…

Which company provides a webUI for Nebula? Might be interested in checking that out :)

Re: ZeroTier – home VPN without a public IP address

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Also consider Nebula: https://github.com/slackhq/nebula ZeroTier does not use an OSI approved open-source license. It is under a freedom-restricting "Business Source License". Nebula is MIT licensed. Nebula is much simpler and in most cases faster than ZeroTier.

Unfortunately their mobile app isn't open source: https://github.com/DefinedNet/mobile_nebula/issues/19#issuec...
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